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Hello to everyone, this is a rather long and hard to follow case that requires much details and context but hold on (it's worth it). As a little introduction: I'm currently in a quarrel with the editor HueyXocoatzin in the article "Demographics of Mexico", the topic on which I've clashed with this editor and every other account linked as a sockpuppet of his is, broadly put, European ancestry and traits in Mexicans, which he and every sock mentioned try repeatedly to lower or remove no matter what, they particularly target the percentages of light eyes and blond hair on Mexicans, it can be seen in fact, that he repeatedly tries to remove information related to these traits. The discussion has reached a dead point as he holds to a literary source while I hold onto others (who are newer). In an attempt to unclog the discussion I brought up in the talk page the percentages of light eyes and hair Mexicans have, to which he replied that "light brown/dark blond hair is not white", and here is where the long trail of sockpuppetry evidence begins: As a little more than a year earlier the editor Iñaki Salazar repeatedly used the same argument to try to remove the frecuencies of light eyes and hair from the article "Mexicans". But that's not all, a week before Iñaki Salazar have done it, another sockpuppet (Theutatis) tried to remove said data and this account ties to the main one (Wikiedro) due the following: Months earlier, Theutatis added to the article "White Latin Americans" a source (Fuerst 2016)  which eventually was removed for being of questionable origin, well, later on the editor Wikiedro added that same source  to the Spanish version of the article "Demographics of Mexico" and then repeatedly tried to lower the frecuencies of light eyes and blond hair in Mexicans   just like his sockpuppets have done before (important note: On December 2018 Wikiedro requested a name change, his previous name was Açipni-lovrij ). More evidency about these accounts being operated by the same person is found in the way Wikiedro and Iñaki Salazar conducted themselves in their disputes as at one point, both accounts arbitrarily removed the aforementioned traits in Mexicans  to inmediately after request page protection. But how does Wikiedro connect to those socks on English Wikipedia? Well, he is currently (simultaneously to HueyXocoatzin) trying to lower the European ancestry of Mexicans in the article "White Latin Americans"  and not only that: Days ago HueyXocoatzin messaged Wikiedro  (his other account) asking for support, to which Wikiedro already replied in Spanish  (right now as seen also on his recent edit summaries, Wikiedro is pretending to not know how to speak English in an attempt to present himself as a person different than the operator of HuayXocoatzin, Iñaki Salazar etc. nonetheless, earlier edits by him reveal he is fluent on it ). As everybody can see, this issue is extremely complex, and there's even more: On his userpage, Wikiedro states to be Chilean, thing that the editor Ignorantes22 does in a discussion as well (What was Ignorantes22 trying to do? You guessed right: He was trying to lower the European ancestry in Mexicans  ). Another behavorial match between Wikiedro, Iñaki Salazar and Hueyxocoatzin lies in the fact that the three accounts have requested name changes   (likely to lower the possibilities of other editors recognizing them and filling cases against them). To not make this that much longer in the case of the IP accounts (and because he uses several of them) I'll point some behavorial cues that are the same to the ones the registered accounts have: All of them want to lower the percentages of different European-related data on Mexicans, often use massive walls of text on their replies and tend to intentionally leave comments unsigned   (Ignorantes22   and HueyXocoatzin  do this aswell).

In the case of the IPs, it can be seen, they hail from Central America, and there was one instance on which Iñaki Salazar replied without logging in revealing an IP from the Caribbean, this however (considering the extremely strong behavorial links between these accounts) does not mean that they're different people, but that this editor likely uses a paid-private proxy service so it is harder to catch him. Which is why I've requested a checkuser for this case as the use of proxies can be evidenced (and make the case against him stronger) if said accounts have logged on from multiple different countries, or if the editor is located on a different country to which he states he is on (and has almost no edits on the wiki in the language of country he is supossedly on). Checkuser is also important in this endeavor since is unlikely this topic is the only one on which Wikiedro uses multiple accounts in a disruptive manner (which we've seen, extends to Wikis in other languages) and the possibility that the editor has forgotten to change IP every time he changes of acount (or he is using the same devices to make edits with different accounts) exists. I know this text is bigger than what is normal when filling a report, but as can be seen, every aspect mentioned is necessary to connect all the dots and construct the case, that is more serious than could seem at first. Thanks in advance. Pob3qu3 (talk) 04:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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“...European ancestry and traits in Mexicans, which he and every sock mentioned try repeatedly to lower or remove no matter what, they particularly target the percentages of light eyes and blond hair on Mexicans…”

Perhaps it has little to do with one person single-handedly opening up various accounts to remove the data and more so that the information you've edited into various articles is problematic. The fact that you've been on a campaign to spread said false information, along with other false data (which I've addressed as well)for nearly two years is clear. Anything under the sun that revolves around the mestizo or white population in Mexico has been edited and is currently monitored by you. The conspiracy here isn't that Wikipedia is under attack by a rogue edit warrior creating sock accounts removing accurate information by humble ‘ol Pob3qu3; rather, it's that this extremely contentious information has been spread to such a degree that people who find your claims strange will want to address them and remove them because they're built on such shaky ground. Clearly, you've been playing the endurance game, which is undeniable. I await the results.HueyXocoatzin (talk) 06:51, 22 February 2019 (UTC)HueyXocoatzin

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Ongoing content dispute. Closing for insufficient evidence.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:16, 22 February 2019 (UTC)