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Both are religious POV-pushers who have edit-warred/disruptively edited at Yahweh. Wittgenstein123 has been indeffed, this makes me think that Mooters 1563 is an incarnation of Wittgenstein123. About diffs: Mooters' recent contributions consist exclusively of WP:DE at Yahweh and Wittgenstein123 performed WP:DE at Talk:Yahweh before being blocked. Both users have blanked their user talk pages big time. Both have claimed that the article would violate WP:NPOV without supporting their claims with WP:SOURCES. See http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/timeline.py?page=Talk%3AYahweh&users=Mooters+1563&users=Wittgenstein123&server=enwiki Both have edited images/captions of images at Christianity. WP:DUCK at (personal slurs, racist attacks, see the revdell-ed comments of Wittgenstein123). Needs a checkuser, since I guess there might be a socks farm. Now they are both indeffed, but there might be other socks. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:00, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

No, I did not read the revdell-ed comments, but I have a guess about what they might have said. E.g. someone who has never heard of Bible scholarship and reads a book of it, finds it kind of crazy. So the attacks might have been about being crazy, about atheism or about race/sexuality (whether real or imagined). Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Mooters mentioned that "their home" is 4chan, so that's why a checkuser would be needed. Diff:. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:34, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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The behavioral evidence looks pretty strong to me - I ran the Editor Interaction Analysis tool & there is a clear level of commonality between the two "editors" on Yahweh, Talk:Yahweh, & WP:ANI. Shearonink (talk) 22:02, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have seen Wittgenstein123's remarks and they seem to bear a very strong resemblance to the monstrous attacks I was subjected to by Mooters 1563, but I am not sure if we have enough evidence to conclude that they are the same person. --Katolophyromai (talk) 22:56, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * already blocked. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Closing. Sro23 (talk) 02:56, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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A WP:SPA "new" editor commits WP:DUCK (in respect to Mooters 1563) through edit warring at Yahweh, which led to the indeffing of Mooters 1563. Raskolinkover has been blocked for 24 hours, but as said at by, Raskolinkover is either a sock or a copycat vandal. Raskolinkover started attacks similar to Wittgenstein123's and Mooters' through stating that Bible scholars would be deceivers from Satan. WP:RGW at (also speaks of "us", plural). Definitely a case of WP:COMPETENCE. Tgeorgescu (talk) 20:18, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Checkuser has confirmed at Sockpuppet_investigations/Mooters_1563. Tgeorgescu (talk) 20:24, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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I think the use of the word "us" may simply be referring to Christians in general, since that is the context in which the pronoun appears to be being used. I strongly suspect that the user is probably a sockpuppet, or at least a copycat, but I do not think this particular choice of pronoun of evidence of that fact. --Katolophyromai (talk) 20:27, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  00:38, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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Returning again to edit war with the POV tag at. — Paleo Neonate  – 02:17, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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It seems abundantly clear to me that this new "Jokeragentofchaos" is clearly yet another sockpuppet. His entire edit history consists of nothing but restoring the same tag that Wittgenstein123, Mooters 1563, and Raskolinkover all repeatedly attempted to edit war into the article, despite unanimous consensus on the talk page that the POV tag did not belong. I say that he should be blocked right away. Even if he is not a sockpuppet, his actions still clearly qualify as disruptive editing. --Katolophyromai (talk) 03:35, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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OK--CU does not confirm, though the location is certainly a match; I wrote up Wittgenstein123 on the CU wiki, and if a fellow CU wants to have a look, go for it. I have blocked them per NOTHERE anywayz--that was an easy call. I did find two more socks of Mooters and CU-blocked them: and, whose edits are pretty similar too... Drmies (talk) 18:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Tagged the sockpuppets, closing. Sro23 (talk) 00:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Same as previous socks, adding  POV tags to our article on Yahweh. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:57, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * I was filing the request too but reverted it when I noticed that two were made. Likely the same sock...  — Paleo  Neonate  – 19:01, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: as soon as semi-protection expired the disruptive editing resumed, so I also filed a RPP request. — Paleo  Neonate  – 19:03, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * CheckUser comes out as . Sock . Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:17, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

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Obvious sock is obvious, back to adding POV tags to our article on Yahweh Darkness Shines (talk) 09:03, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thank you! — Paleo  Neonate  – 17:35, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 16:37, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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Restores same edits at Yahweh with soapboxing on the talk page. Thanks, — Paleo Neonate  – 09:57, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Added Thehappeningsseptember23, already blocked by Doug. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked the account for soapboxing and abuse, and it looks like a WP:DUCK to me. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  11:39, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * This individual is definitely the same one we have been dealing with for over a month now. The fanatic anti-Semitism in the second paragraph of his deleted comments on the talk page is very similar to the sort of attacks that Mooters1563 rendered against me the first time around. Anti-Semitic remarks such as these, along with the obvious "all-blasphemers-will-burn-in-Hell" attitude, seem to be a running theme with this person's sockpuppets. --Katolophyromai (talk) 11:48, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * FYI, Getoffmyboardunormiesreeeeee was trying to mess this page up. CLCStudent (talk) 02:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And also . theinstantmatrix (talk) 02:21, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * perhaps that it could serve to detect sleeping socks (that are attempting to become autoconfirmed), but I'm not sure. The disruption is temporarily over again.  Thanks, — Paleo  Neonate  – 23:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Given the blocks, are you still requesting CheckUser? Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 22:50, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll tag and close for now; please feel free to rerequest CU if disruption resumes. Thanks, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 23:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Kinda obvious, I'm requesting CU as there is another new account on the talk page, uses the same citations as a previous sock, the Gibons one. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * CheckUser is . as a suspected sock. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:28, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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Doug Weller talk 11:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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✅ as Mooters 1563 socks, blocked and tagged as CU confirmed for Mooters, suspected for Wittgenstein123. Doug Weller talk 11:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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Obviouse sock is obvious Darkness Shines (talk) 16:33, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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I do not think there is currently enough evidence to conclude that Ariel820 is a sockpuppet of Wittgenstein123. Currently, the editor has only inserted comments regarding the vocalization of the name Yahweh and has not made any complaints about the article allegedly violating WP:NPOV. The editor may be a sockpuppet, but, with the information we have right now, I do not think that the evidence is solid enough to draw any kind of conclusion from it. I am certainly no expert on spotting sockpuppets, but this does not seem like an "obvious sock" to me, based on what little evidence we have right now. --Katolophyromai (talk) 19:45, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * I ran a CU since I was doing the same above. CU is bordering on . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:29, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Closed with no action. Sro23 (talk) 02:36, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK and self-ID. CU check, please, for sleepers.  General Ization Talk  05:13, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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No obvious sleepers at this time. -- zzuuzz (talk) 05:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅, plus

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See below. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * All ✅ to one another:
 * Behavioral evidence strongly suggests this master. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged as proven and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Behavioral evidence strongly suggests this master. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged as proven and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Behavioral evidence strongly suggests this master. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged as proven and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Behavioral evidence strongly suggests this master. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged as proven and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

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Typical placement of the POV tag at the top of the Yahweh article... — Paleo Neonate  – 20:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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Checkuser should look for sleepers. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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✅ to socks in the archive. . Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:43, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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Vandalized the archive for the sockpuppeteer's investigations - apparently claiming they're the user in question. Kirbanzo (talk) 20:04, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Sock has been blocked for vandalism, but it's good to double check. Kirbanzo (talk) 20:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Nothing to do here. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 20:25, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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Just wrote I will make know the sacrilegious blasphemy to the defenders OF God which is characteristic for the sockmaster. Also WP:TE at Talk:Yahweh, which is WP:DUCK. The other was indeffed. Tgeorgescu (talk) 01:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

See. Tgeorgescu (talk) 01:09, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

That's another WP:DUCK. Tgeorgescu (talk) 01:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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Xulios and GoogleMeNowPlease are ❌ to each other and to Wittgenstein123. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:19, 14 January 2020 (UTC)