Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wukai/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lee_Zeldin&diff=prev&oldid=974993513

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lee_Zeldin&diff=prev&oldid=974468263

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lee_Zeldin&diff=974898994&oldid=974872047 BlueboyLINY (talk) 05:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * This case was originally filed under the name "AlsoWukai; Wukai". I have changed this to just "Wukai". Mz7 (talk) 06:24, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not see this as a violation of the sock puppetry policy because the user properly disclosed that they are the owner of both accounts on the user page of AlsoWukai (see WP:SOCK). I noticed, however, that while you originally stated that the purpose of the AlsoWukai account was because you were no longer able to access the Wukai account, you now appear to be editing actively using both accounts. I think it would be a good idea to choose one account and edit using that one for all editing. If this is not possible, it would also be helpful to disclose the AlsoWukai account on User:Wukai as well to avoid further confusion. Mz7 (talk) 06:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * For these reasons, I am closing this case without any action. Mz7 (talk) 06:34, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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I edited Rashida Tlaib to make a small improvement to the grammar, as I believe that starting sentences with the word "but" does not fit the tone of Wikipedia articles. I also added a comma to help make the text more readable. User:AlsoWukai reverted the edit several days later, contravening the policy at Revert only when necessary: "For a reversion to be appropriate, the reverted edit must actually make the article worse." I have tried to discuss this matter at the Usertalk page: User_talk:AlsoWukai. As the user has contravened the reversion policy, I reverted back to my original edit. Less than a day later, that edit has been reverted again, this time by User:Wukai, with the unhelpful tag "that's just, like, your opinion, man". I don't think this is the kind of civilised discourse we are meant to be using on Wikipedia, nor is the tag placed by the associated account when editing their User_talk:AlsoWukai page - "get over it!" : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAlsoWukai&type=revision&diff=988257002&oldid=988156294 Again, this has a rather hostile tone. In any case, User:AlsoWukai has reverted my edit unnecessarily twice, once with their current account of that name, and then using their older account, User:Wukai. The User:AlsoWukai page states "I am the user formerly known as User:Wukai. For unknown reasons I am no longer able to log into that account on my desktop or laptop." I believe these actions amount to "Inappropriate uses of alternative accounts" - as per Sockpuppetry, I believe it is an example of "Circumventing policies".

The first and second diffs for Rashida Tlaib are listed here.

Diff 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashida_Tlaib&type=revision&diff=987950698&oldid=986980055

Diff 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashida_Tlaib&type=revision&diff=988255803&oldid=988156240

TrottieTrue (talk) 16:41, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Read the archived discussion above. Wukai (talk) 18:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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(moved from clerk section to here, replying to Oshwah, below, -- RoySmith (talk) 02:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC))
 * But not on both accounts. It's still a case of using an alternative account to re-revert an edit, which makes it look like another person is agreeing with the original user. My latest edit to the article appears to have been left alone by the users mentioned, but the type of language used in their conduct is unbecoming, in my opinion. --TrottieTrue (talk) 13:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * AlsoWukai publicly declares that this account is an alternate account of Wukai. Because of this, I don't see a violation of sock puppetry here...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:33, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm going to close this with no action taken. Given the similar usernames and the disclosure at User:AlsoWukai, I'm hard pressed to say this is an attempt at deception or any other WP:ILLEGIT use of multiple accounts.  On the other hand,, you could make this even more transparent by adding a similar disclosure at User:Wukai, which I highly suggest you do.  As for the other issues raised here, those are outside the scope of SPI.  If you can't resolve them by other means, WP:AN would be a more suitable forum. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2020 (UTC)