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24 February 2014

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IslamicHeroes623 has already been blocked as a sockpuppet. IslamicHeroes623 admitted to sockpuppetry on their talk page. Saifullah has just been created. Saifullah has been editing Jordanian Football articles and doing the same thing they were told not to do. This includes adding unreferenced material, writing syntactically bad external links (with their love of Facebook) and visiting past articles they previously edited.

From the last message by them on Yalladar's talk page, "No matter how many more times you guys try to stop or block me from contributing to this website, I will never stop, whether you like it or not!!!!!!" Bgwhite (talk) 07:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC) Bgwhite (talk) 07:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged the puppet based on duck. Bbb23 (talk) 21:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

09 March 2014

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Account just created and is editing Jordanian football articles. Edited Jordan national football team, same article Yalladar was reverted over 15 times. Added Facebook to Mohammad Mustafa and changed Goalzz link to Kooora. Goalzz is the English version of Kooora and Yallader only uses Kooora. Used the same wrong external link syntax as they always do. Created new article Anas Al-Jbarat that shows same pattern. Visiting same articles as before. Most edits are changing caps with the national team that are not backed up by references. Saeed Murjan has been change by Yalladar and Swordsman100. Last before Yalladar or IP edits showed 44 caps, which is what ref says. Yallader currently has him at 53. Bgwhite (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC) Bgwhite (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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This seems pretty obvious per WP:DUCK. This is their third sockpuppet, so I'm blocking both accounts indefinitely. --  At am a  頭 21:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

15 April 2014

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He's back for the fourth time editing Jordanian footballers. Doing the same things as before... can't do an external link right, adding/replacing Koora links (Arabic) instead of the sister site goalzz (English), adding facebook and changing goals scored to what the refs don't back up. Diffs include Rakan Al-Khalidi and Rakan Al-Khalidi, where Yalldar and previous socks edited; Anas Al-Jbarat, Kalad Saad. My favourite, edit done by old sockpuppet vs new edit, they are almost identical.

Could this be expedited. Takes a long time to clean up after them. Bgwhite (talk) 04:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

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Yes, this is just like the last one I blocked. Blocked and tagged. --  At am a  頭 19:06, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

29 May 2014

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And he's back, again.
 * Working only on Jordanian footballers.
 * Adding or creating pages that:
 * Adds facebook links
 * Adds external links incorrectly, with two brackets
 * Sometimes adds a | in external links
 * Adds links to kooora.com, the Arabic language site instead of its English site goalzz.


 * Changes goal totals or caps to something very different. As he has said in the past, he keeps track of the accurate goals/caps as web sites are all wrong.

Mohammad Mustafa Shadi Abu Hash, Saeed Murjan, Suleiman Al-Salman, Fadi Awad, Baha' Faisal, and Mohammad Abu Nabhan Bgwhite (talk) 23:05, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 12:10, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

12 June 2014

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The usual things. Editing Jordanian footballers. Reverting edits of mine that reverted their previous sockpuppets. Adding Koora links and changing links. Adding Facebook links in their special way. They are currently blocked for 36 hours for adding Facebook links and reverting XLinkBot. Bgwhite (talk) 22:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC) Bgwhite (talk) 22:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged as obvious. Bbb23 (talk) 21:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

18 June 2014

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Back doing the usual... ,  and  Bgwhite (talk) 20:33, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Everyoneis is new today, but doing same things. Bgwhite (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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To all members of Wikipedia that have been involved in this case, especially Bgwhite: I'm sincerely sorry for everything: I want to apologize for always giving you guys a hard time with my edits and contributions to any articles here on Wikipedia regarding Jordanian footballers and teams and I sincerely apologize for always ignoring your rules and warnings. I admit I was being selfish, thought I could always get away with it and always have it my way, as well as being too lazy to listen to any of you by ignoring the reasons you provide me as to why some of my edits violate the rules here on this website and ignoring your warnings. I apologize for my rude and selfish behavior. I just wanted to help, and I thought I could by adding more links and references to such articles, but I seriously did not know that using double brackets and this | in the links and references I add was a violation, I thought it wouldn't matter. With all due respect, what's the big deal with that exactly, what harm could be done? Is it only because it's totally unnecessary or what? And what's wrong with providing Arabic links and references here on Wikipedia? I mean, there are lots of articles here on Wikipedia, besides ones regarding Jordanian footballers, that include Arabic links and references. The only reason why I like to provide Arabic links and references to articles of Jordanian footballers here on Wikipedia is because they are the only ones that back up the information of these footballers and make a lot of sense, and there are hardly any English ones out there that help back up the info. Trust me, the Arabic ones are much better because they contain much more, or better yet, all sources of the info I provide. So I provide these links and references as sources to back up the info I provide. And as for all the Facebook links I've been trying to provide for the past few months, which I have also just removed myself for the past few days after I found out why providing certain Facebook links is inappropriate here on Wikipedia, I thought it was completely fine to do that after I saw Lionel Messi's Facebook page provided as a link on an article of him here on Wikipedia, so I thought I could help by doing the same to articles of Jordanian footballers here on Wikipedia, and I thought it wouldn't matter, in fact I thought the same was allowed to be done for any article here on Wikipedia of a footballer. So if it's really the links and references you guys have a problem with, just remove them yourselves from now on without having to revert my recent edits, like manually. As for me, I promise to never ever do this again. I really didn't mean to cause you guys any trouble with all I've been doing, I just wanted to help because I enjoy doing this, and I've been doing all this because I'm the one who created most articles/pages here on Wikipedia of Jordanian footballers, national teams, and clubs and improved all others created by other people. You see, I used to be the only one here on Wikipedia who had access to all the information of Jordanian footballers and teams until I tried to help everyone else here on Wikipedia, like readers and members, giving them access to this information by providing it here on Wikipedia. So as of for now and from now on, please accept and leave my recent edits and contributions that I have made for the past few days because they are all now totally accurate and I tried to make it easier for you guys by removing Facebook links and the | symbols from the references I've been providing. Will you guys please forgive me, not get me into anymore trouble and not try to stop me from contributing by blocking me. Please let's just forget about all this and allow me to continue contributing because I want to help, is that so wrong? :( Thank you for your cooperation :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Everyoneis1 (talk) 14:57, 22 June 2014‎ (UTC)
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 * - - The evidence looks fairly convincing, but would a CU mind taking a look and double checking for confirmation. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Group 1 - ✅ to one another:
 * Group 2 - ✅ to one another:
 * The two groups are in the same geographic area. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Given the similar edits between the two groups and that they are in the same area I've blocked them as socks of each other. Closing with all blocked and tagged. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Group 2 - ✅ to one another:
 * The two groups are in the same geographic area. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Given the similar edits between the two groups and that they are in the same area I've blocked them as socks of each other. Closing with all blocked and tagged. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The two groups are in the same geographic area. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Given the similar edits between the two groups and that they are in the same area I've blocked them as socks of each other. Closing with all blocked and tagged. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The two groups are in the same geographic area. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Given the similar edits between the two groups and that they are in the same area I've blocked them as socks of each other. Closing with all blocked and tagged. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The two groups are in the same geographic area. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Given the similar edits between the two groups and that they are in the same area I've blocked them as socks of each other. Closing with all blocked and tagged. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

06 August 2014

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Quack. Same Jordanian footballers with the same characteristic edits. ,,. Interesting choice of a username... Army of Islam. Depending on your point of view, two different groups who are freedom fighters/terrorists in Syria and Gaza. Bgwhite (talk) 04:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC) Bgwhite (talk) 04:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Update. Added another sock, HamasHeroes1. They are currently reverting any changes I made.  Bgwhite (talk) 22:45, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Ran a check since the last check yielded several socks. Surprisingly, they appear technically ❌. But the gap between the last batch of socks and the ever so common revert edits to the previous sock version leads me to believe that it is very likely that this user has either moved or is on vacation. I did block the accounts due to behavioral evidence. Didn't find any sleepers or any additional accounts at this time. Elockid  ( Talk ) 02:09, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

13 December 2014

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Same pattern as before... Editing same Jordanian footballers, doing external links wrong and adding Arabic site Koora. Some diffs: Anas Bani Yaseen, Tareq Khattab and Alaa' Al-Shaqran. Plus reverting edits to previous sockpuppet's version. Bgwhite (talk) 06:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Yep, it doesn't get much more clear than that. Account blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  19:36, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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I have been dealing with creations by User:Hishamhmk in New Page Patrol. They are distinctive articles - dozens and dozens of blps with no inline citations, just external links to Koora etc, where it is not clear if they were used to source the article. I left several messages which were ignored, still creating several like this a day. In looking through the editor's contributions to move the most problematic back to draftspace, I noticed Hishamhmk editing many articles which shared the distinctive characteristics of his own editing but were under other names. On further investigation, the other names were all of now banned users, sockpuppets. All exclusively worked on Jordanian sports (mainly football) articles. Hishamhmk started editing in Jan 2014 and was a regular editor from the start. This was 3 months after User:Chikenlittle205 had been blocked for abusing multiple accounts. Chikenlittle had been editing Jul-Oct 2013, on the same topics and in the same way. It also matches the editing of User:GOALWAY (also a banned sockpuppet, see ). GOALWAY edited from September 2011, also with initial edits seeming to show knowledge not expected of a newbie. He was banned Jan 2013. User:Yalladar also edited in the same way from Nov 2013 to Feb 2014. Hisham started his account five days after Yallader's last edit - presumably the sockpuppetry investigation was already underway. WP:DUCK. Having now gone through more than 200 articles on Jordanian footballers in the last 2 days, I have no doubt this is the same editor. Boleyn (talk) 07:52, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

It also matches the pattern of editing from User:Charles87, see Thaer Krouma. Charles has been using his account since 2009. Can a Checkuser please be used. Boleyn (talk) 08:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

, can you please say whether you used to use the name Yalladar? Communication is required on Wikipedia. Boleyn (talk) 13:23, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

, No I didn't use the name Yalladar.Hishamhmk

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This case is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Please provide diffs of both the master and suspected sock engaging in similar behavior to assist me in processing this. ~ Rob 13 Talk 02:17, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No info provided in over 2 weeks. Please re-file if you want to present the evidence. Closing. GABgab 00:01, 15 September 2017 (UTC)