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Doug Weller talk 13:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

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✅  Doug Weller  talk 13:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

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Same user making the relatively same edits, adding large plot additions, some being promotional from what I read from the reverts — DaxServer (talk) 16:16, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:51, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

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Same edits as the other socks, one such case — DaxServer (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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Both accounts are firstword-secondword-number, pretty obvious IMO. 218.154.18.24 (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Added Goldmines49, same edits, , same reasons as above. --Venkat TL (talk) 06:42, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Both accounts are ✅ to and . No other accounts immediately visible.   Girth Summit  (blether)  14:45, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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The articles are now locked but the edits are still the same. Glorifying Karna Venkat TL (talk) 18:20, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

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Goldilocks25 is ✅ to basically all the earlier socks, plus. Girth Summit  (blether) 18:55, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

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Username and spamming about Karna Venkat TL (talk) 19:16, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * @Girth Summit this seems to have been missed. Venkat TL (talk) 19:18, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Huh, what the... oh yeah, them too. What was I thinking?  Girth Summit  (blether)  19:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

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Same as last case. diff Venkat TL (talk) 14:20, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, and closed. Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

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Username and articles match with socks. Venkat TL (talk) 13:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 02:00, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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Same username. Same edits. Venkat TL (talk) 07:13, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * They're ✅, and given the other factors, I have no doubts. Blocked, tagged, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  19:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

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Username and same edits like all the earlier socks Venkat TL (talk) 06:34, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Editing interests, username similarity and CU data is enough for me - ✅, blocked and tagged, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  16:02, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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Same page same username Venkat TL (talk) 12:09, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * , closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 12:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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On Mahabharat (1988 TV series) they added the same section like previous socks: Special:Diff/1058577044, Special:Diff/1059795002. – NJD-DE (talk) 17:47, 11 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Just went further in the archive, and noticed that previous socks in this farm used a combination of "Goldilocks" and a number as their username as well. – NJD-DE (talk) 17:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:59, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

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The sock name has evolved. Same articles, same edits. Diff  vs  Venkat TL (talk) 09:57, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * That edit, and their contributions, are suspiciously duck-like. However the username is very different to what they've used previously and there's some slight differences in area of interest so for confirmation. --Jack Frost (talk) 11:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * is ✅ to previous confirmed socks (including and ). Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - to determine if a move to the oldest account (Yashthakurkamail) is needed here. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * is ✅ to previous confirmed socks (including and ). Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - to determine if a move to the oldest account (Yashthakurkamail) is needed here. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * is ✅ to previous confirmed socks (including and ). Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - to determine if a move to the oldest account (Yashthakurkamail) is needed here. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - for training --Jack Frost (talk) 12:09, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I've elected to move this case to as the oldest account; I've tagged them as the master, the below accounts as confirmed to them, and re-tagged  as their sock. Closing. -- Jack Frost (talk) 09:26, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Username as before, same articles and promoting Karna vs  Venkat TL (talk) 18:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * -- RoySmith (talk) 19:44, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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Returned to do same edits. vs Venkat TL (talk) 06:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Added Yash Thakur Ramayan, same username as the master — DaxServer (talk) 14:06, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * both ✅ to each other and previous socks.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  17:34, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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Diff with last sock vs  Venkat TL (talk) 13:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to last round of socks. Blocked, tagged, closing.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  15:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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See last sock report. Diff vs  Venkat TL (talk) 06:43, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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re-doing last sock edits. Venkat TL (talk) 08:22, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅, no obvious other accounts.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  08:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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Same articles and same edits. Karna, Venkat TL (talk) 10:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @Tamzin, the CU check is to find other accounts that have been created. Venkat TL (talk) 10:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * you need to look again. There are more than one instance of using sleeper account and other accounts being found due to CU check. Venkat TL (talk) 10:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone! --Venkat TL (talk) 13:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * This comparison of an edit by Anant and one by a past sock is pretty unambiguous. : Please block Anant144 indefinitely as a sock of Yashthakurkamail. CU : Unnecessary to prove sockpuppetry in this case, and I don't see any record of them having had sleepers in the past. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 10:35, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand that, but I don't see any evidence that they've used "sleeper" accounts like that in the past. I count 9 checks in the archive, none of them finding anyone other than the sock that had been reported. Am I missing something? --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 10:39, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're right. Looks like 1 on 3 November and 2 on 22 December. Still, there have been three checks this month, the most recent just over 24 hours ago, and none have found sleepers. A CU may of course check if they'd like, but I don't think it's a good use of SPI resources for me to endorse for a fourth check in short succession. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 10:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Tamzin - ✅, and tagged. Closing SPI report...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

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Diff vs. Prefix in the name. Duck.

Requesting CU as I suspect there are more socks (eg Kairakairav). Reasons for adding Kairakairav : Yashthakurkamail's second last sock tried to blank the SPI report 12 mins after its filing. he was reverted and later blocked. Yashthakurkamail's last sock was reported and within 20 mins of filing SPI, Kairakairav was created. Kairakairav is also editing the same articles as frequented by Yashthakurkamail's other socks. Venkat TL (talk) 05:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are confirmed to the master:, , . I will block these. Aside from geolocating to the same country, however, there is no technical connection between and the other accounts - behavioural investigation will be required there.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  08:50, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Kairakairav has already been indeffed for disruptive editing, so I don't think it's worth spending too much time trying to figure out whether they're a sock or not. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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vs Venkat TL (talk) 14:59, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * An exceedingly ducky duck. Looks like they've found a new internet cafe though. Blocked, tagging, closing.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  15:33, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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nothing more obvious than this — DaxServer (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * . Dear admins, its time to start protecting the affecting pages. --Venkat TL (talk) 16:44, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * . Please consider raising a request for page protection at WP:RfPP, listing all the affected articles (always good for another pair of admin eyes).  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  17:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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Karna. Adding unsourced original research. Venkat TL (talk) 08:39, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @RoySmith please match with this Venkat TL (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Girth Summit This one got left out. Venkat TL (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * This user has a total of 5 edits, and there's no explanation here of why they are suspected of being a sock. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * With only five edits, four of them to the same page, this isn't so clearcut. Wait and see whether they resume editing, and follow the pattern. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  17:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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reverted diff the removal by me diff of additions from User:Goldilocks169, a sock of User:Yashthakurkamail, at Kurukshetra. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  09:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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I concur with Joshua Jonathan. Please run the Check User and block the other socks too, after matching.--Venkat TL (talk) 09:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Confirms to the Ayush0618 sock in the archives; I haven't done a deep dig to see I can link it to any of the confirmed accounts, but will as proven. Closing.   Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  09:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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vs with the usual Trademark. Duck sock Venkat TL (talk) 16:02, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @RoySmith you have clearly mistaken. What is the process to get a recheck. Venkat TL (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sometime back @Girth Summit had noted that he has found a cyber cafe. So dont deny a match simply on technical grounds. Venkat TL (talk) 16:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Girth Summit. Understood. Thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 16:32, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @DaxServer SPI admins have suggested to seek protection at WP:RFPP. Venkat TL (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Shall we protect all the involved pages? — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 16:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Anitya006 was checked in 15 January 2022. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * - when said 'unrelated', he was absolutely right - it wasn't the same sort of situation as when I made that comment. We can't reveal the specifics of CU results, but the differnces between these accounts and the other ones couldn't be accounted for by someone switching cafes. Having said that, I've conducted a behavioural investigation, and I'm satisfied that there is something dodgy going on, hence I've blocked without tags.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  16:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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Same articles. Venkat TL (talk) 08:03, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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Another on same articles. --Venkat TL (talk) 13:32, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Seems to have evolved. or Possible meat puppetry. These diffs show a Duck sock. Let me know if further evidence is needed. Venkat TL (talk) 07:58, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Girth Summit, I am guessing he got tired of getting blocked and arranged some kind of elaborate trolling. Venkat TL (talk) 16:29, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:45, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As far as the CU data goes, all 4 of these are ❌ to each other or to previous socks. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Even without a CU hit, there's obviously something fishy going on here. All of these accounts are new, except for KEYUR 49 which was created a while back but only recently started editing. The contributions of each account shows almost 100% overlap those of with previous socks involved in this case. Whether this is Yashthakurkamail, another sockmaster they're edit warring with, or something coordinated between multiple people, something isn't right - blocking without tags.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  16:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure - there's definitely more than one person involved at some of those articles, I've seen different IPs/new accounts edit warring with each other at some of those articles. It could be that there's some kind of off-wiki coordination going on on social media or something. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  16:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Everyone's blocked, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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compare this with diffs provided above. Venkat TL (talk) 07:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Noting that John muriu tried to mess up the date. In past socks had tried blanking this SPI page. Venkat TL (talk) 18:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Sir why am I being suspected as a socketpuppet? I am not even anyway related to this account. Then why are you trying to make all accounts socketpuppets of this Yashthakurkamail — Preceding unsigned comment added by John muriu (talk • contribs) 04:40, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked without tags for disruptive editing - aside from messing around with the dates on this SPI, they were changing other user's requests at RfPP; I do not believe they are a new user. I don't know whether they are Yashthakurkamail - the CU data certainly doesn't help. Closing.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:04, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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Similar editing style vs ; also the unreferenced qualifiers for Karna in the brackets. Behaviourally seems a sock. Would a CU check be warranted? — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 14:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * After reading thru MelanieN's comments, we might even be dealing with organized meatpuppetry? Paid editing, for sure. But rather a net-negative one. Violated a bunch of policies, OR, NPOV, POV push, edit warring, unsourced, [often] poor RS, among others. — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 19:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Additional edits for Sidbidmidlid (reported by MelanieN below):  (cc @Doug Weller: Ilyadante is already suspected to part of this [meatpuppetry]) — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 16:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Additional edits for Ilyadante involving the characters of Karna and Arjuna: (non RS / fansite),  (unsourced),  (75% of the paragraph is unsourced / POV, the awards are cited from WP mirror) — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 13:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And changing signatures (posts by now-blocked user ) — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 14:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

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Comment from User:MelanieN: After some research among all these editors, I observe that the common trait among the previous socks and the proposed new ones is their concern with the relative importance of two characters in the Sanskrit epic Mahabharata: Karna and Arjuna. They edit articles about the epics to favor Karna. In particular they are very concerned with which character (and thus which actor) gets listed first in the cast list of films based on the epic, and they edit war to favor Karna. On that basis I propose adding two additional users to this investigation:


 * User:Sidbidmidlid
 * User:Tahir Mahmood 1

Evidence:
 * Sidbidmidlid:


 * Tahir Mahmood 1: Note that although this is their first and only edit to that article, their edit summary talks as if it is a continuation of previous disagreements. Also this edit is identical to and is a restoration of this one by User:John muriu, who is mentioned above. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Additional information about User:Ilyadante, possibly unrelated to the SPI: Like the others here, they edit war in favor of the importance of Karna. Unlike the others here, they disclose that they are a COI editor, paid by Stephie Theodora, Mohamad alamuddin and Krrish Sinha. [] (In the time I have been researching this, they replaced Mahamad alamuddin with Drilia Tchili.) They have twice created a draft about Stephie Theodora, without mentioning at that draft that they are a paid editor. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:49, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * DaxServer, I'm inclined to agree with you. The original sock cases back in September were CU confirmed, but more recent cases have been found to be unrelated accounts, and were blocked anyhow per WP:DUCK. I think this may be some kind off-line coordination among multiple widely scattered individuals - in other words, meatpuppetry as you suggested. -- MelanieN (talk) 19:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

I am not a socketpuppet of this account. Why am I even being suspected? This person is not even related to me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahir Mahmood 1 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

However, to prove myself, i have reverted all the edits! I believe it would be sufficient to prove myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahir Mahmood 1 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * I ran CU on the named accounts. and  are ✅ to one another, but IP data places them both in a different country to other socks I've looked at previously in this case. Ilyadante is ❌, as far as CU can tell - also in a new country. I'm going to block the confirmed accounts without tags; behavioural analysis will be required for Ilyadante.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  17:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * - Based on Special:Diff/1067241233/1067242416, I'm convinced that Ilyadante and Tahir Mahmood 1 are socks of each other.  I'm going to toss this on the clerk queue.  My recommendation is that these two account, along with Sidbidmidlid, be split out into their own case, after which they should be tagged for whichever of those is the oldest of the three. , I'm assuming that makes sense based on your CU results? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Splitting this out into a separate case probably makes sense. With regards to the CU data, Ilyadante and Tahir Mahmood 1 geolocated to different countries - different continents, if I'm remembering correctly - from each other, as well as from the earlier accounts. It's always possible that someone is taking steps to fool the tool though, so if you're convinced on behavioural evidence I'd be content to go with that. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  18:33, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Split to Sockpuppet investigations/Sidbidmidlid. Closing. Jack Frost (talk) 14:37, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

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The username is obvious for who was blocked for disruption. Same edit behaviour of portraying "best friend of ..." vs and obvious obsession with Karna — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 12:37, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sharon Githirwa reverts and self-reverts in the next edit, which is again reverted by Rajwant49 in the next edit. Rajwant49 adds absolute BS from a non-RS (reverted by Venkat TL, which was again reverted by Rajwant49) . All involve the Karna obsession. — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 13:08, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding Anther24 - highlights Karna like others, (complete misrepresentation of source and puffery) — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 07:25, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding Ambenath24 - same puffery of Karna, , and everything else in contribs — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 07:25, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Kairakairavkairat is blocked as a sock of Sockpuppet investigations/Kairakairav. Still they all represent the same interest here — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 14:38, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please also see Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 18:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Melanie., and admins with great patience are also helpful in this case :) — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 19:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Add all the users observed [from ANI] and request CU and perhaps get a close — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 17:06, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Another one Alluarjun500:, fits the bill — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 17:16, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Might I also ask for a sleeper check given a wide range of user accounts? — DaxServer (talk · contribs) 08:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Add 105.230.84.72, certainly part of the farm, (and  against Arjuna which is also common to these editors) — DaxServer (t · c) 12:40, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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I happened across User:Anther24, a new username as of January 26 (who although supposedly brand new, clearly understands the term sockpuppet). All of their edits have been to promote Karna, or to change the order of the actors in films so as to make the actor who portrays Karna the star. That is the exact pattern of the previous users who have been investigated here. This looks like a WP:DUCK to me and I was tempted to block them, but will await the result here. I congratulate DaxServer for recognizing so many of these editors - since they edit a wide variety of articles, always with the same intent. CU has shown that many of the previous usernames are unrelated, not even in the same country. I suspect there is an offline push somewhere to glorify Karna at Wikipedia. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:40, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the mention, and for your efforts. Additionally, I'd like to add here that in Jaya page there was an anonymous edit recently. The citation provided from K.M. Ganguli's translation of Mahabharata in sacred-texts website says "Vibhatsu otherwise called Jaya". And Vibhatsu is famously another name for Arjuna, not Karna. Basically, deliberate distortion with false evidence. (Panchalidraupadi (talk) 20:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC))

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 * I've reviewed the information above and in the related ANI thread and I suspect there's actually a number of different users involved, promoting the same nonsense about Karna (Sidbidmidlid / Kairakairav / Unnamed Karna Sockfarm - for starters). However, I am comfortable there is enough similarity between several of the accounts in particular that I believe a check is warranted. Hence, - For comparison of the named accounts (in particular ) and a check for any sleepers, noting that Amanda looks to have done a check 3 days ago on a number of the other accounts. --Jack Frost (talk) 06:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 14:47, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a bit of a fishing expedition, so I restricted my check to just the four accounts noted as most likely (Sharon Githirwa, Anupamsharma00, Shahzaib6008 and Elbacha917). They are all ❌ to each other, and also unrelated to any of the accounts described in the notes for this case on cuwiki.  I'm not seeing any particular reason to think there's a proxy issue. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The technical data demonstrates no technical connection between the reported accounts, and the non-technical data is not strong enough to block the accounts on the basis of sockpuppetry alone. However this does not preclude sanctions or blocks for disruptive editing or otherwise breaching Wikipedia’s policies, and this can be reported to ANI or AIV (both of which are likely to have a faster response time than SPI). Closing. --Jack Frost (talk) 08:27, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

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Yet another sock, Apsara -. Please check for sleepers. Now became a cross-wiki abuse, please request locks. — DaxServer (t · c · m) 16:58, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Anna Bhaiyya vs
 * Falgun Khanna vs  — DaxServer (t · c · m) 17:22, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * All three are ✅. Locks requested.  I made some attempt to look for sleepers, but it's very common user agents and IP ranges, so the number of false positives would be too high to be of any real use. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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Straight out Karna promos. Please request locks [continued at ] — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:56, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * -  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:20, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There's a whole drawer full on this IP. The following are ✅ to one another:
 * Some of these accounts have already been blocked as socks; I have no doubt that they are all part of this farm. Blocking, will request locks. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hang on, there's more...
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Some of these accounts have already been blocked as socks; I have no doubt that they are all part of this farm. Blocking, will request locks. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hang on, there's more...
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Some of these accounts have already been blocked as socks; I have no doubt that they are all part of this farm. Blocking, will request locks. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hang on, there's more...
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Some of these accounts have already been blocked as socks; I have no doubt that they are all part of this farm. Blocking, will request locks. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hang on, there's more...
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Some of these accounts have already been blocked as socks; I have no doubt that they are all part of this farm. Blocking, will request locks. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hang on, there's more...
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've also been able to confirm to multiple globally locked socks of this farm, including . That's all I can see at the moment. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Karna promotion (with demotion of his proponent Arjuna), see  — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 17:27, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.  -- RoySmith (talk) 17:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , archiving. Spicy (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Straight forward Karna promo — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * - had a look myself, but unsure of the CU data. Deferring to someone with more experience with this case. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If forced, I could manage to say, but it would be a stretch. And with just a single edit, closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:07, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Obvious Karna promotions The last report on 2 April on
 * GhaniAshraf CU blocked on Simple wiki
 * Badshaho25 -, uploaded the same dubious image on Commons as one of the previous socks
 * Ertyua - CU confirmed to GhaniAshraf on Simple wiki
 * John muriu12 is a duck case of John muriu (see API archive 20 January 2022), anyway all 4 edits are obvious promo
 * Amanna01 - obvious promo
 * DLF67 - obvious promo: dubious image (tagged for deletion on Commons) and the table is added by other socks on various pages;  - hilariously dubious image: added Lava Kusa image to IMDB  and referred IMDB as source in Commons  and added that in Maharathi Karna... sigh. The same behaviour of extreme fabrication of source is observed on Simple Wiki  by other socks (GhaniAshraf and Ertyua)
 * Lalluraj - obvious promo
 * Werftyu - obvious promo
 * Nannere25 - Obvious Karna promo

was closed as a single edit and could explain the reason for many accounts with one or two accounts.

Please request locks — DaxServer (t · m · c) 08:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * - for confirmation of these accounts as well as to the archive. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:28, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 13:23, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * All of these accounts with the exception of and  are ✅ to Yashthakurkamail.  John muriu12 and ItsDusty2 appear to be ❌ to that group and are similar in some ways to each other; I'll leave those accounts alone.  Glocks requested. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:42, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

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Obvious Karna promotions: Please request global locks — DaxServer (t · m · c) 20:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ananrtyu -, ,
 * Narenanan - (image was of Abhimanyu being captioned as Karna)
 * Napu412 -

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * All of these are ✅ to each other: -- RoySmith (talk) 12:18, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocked the ones that weren't already blocked. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:21, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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Obvious Karna promo. Please check for sleepers. And please request locks — DaxServer (t · m · c) 19:33, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 21:18, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * . Are all ✅ to each other and  to a bunch of previous socks.  In addition  is  and  is also . -- RoySmith (talk) 21:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking all the first group as suspected. The others have not edited, so not going to bother with those. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:34, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

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Obvious Karna promo Please check for sleepers and request global locks — DaxServer (t · m · c) 08:31, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Findings:
 * is ✅ to.
 * and are technically  to previously blocked sock, . Note also the user name similarity.
 * is to  and  and.


 * When I say "highly likely", I mean "just short of a slam dunk here". I have done no blocks and requested no global blocks. Let me know if you need me to help out there. Clerks, feel free to suggest improvements to my writeups. --Yamla (talk) 19:44, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with Yamla's assessment, and will add to the mix. Blocking, etc.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  13:16, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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Similar to earlier cases of Karna promotion. Some articles that I've found so far for Lord Kai07:


 * Brahmashirsha astra - edit - removes Arjuna. The citation referenced indeed verifies Arjuna however fails Karna.
 * Bhima - edits range - changes all occurrences of Bhima defeating Karna to Bhima defeated by Karna (need verification)
 * Karna - edit - upon attaining EC permission (1 week earlier), changes the infobox image with glorifying tagline
 * Vijaya (bow) - edits range - Karna centric image tagline, adds a citation to a blog (from memory, this was used by earlier socks)
 * On another note, for some reason, removes all page numbers from cited book at Surya - edits range

Based on the case's history, I'd also ask to check for sleepers — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:00, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I believe Rupert uddin (former username Arjuna randi) also belongs here. See and  on Bhima, similar to the above changing all Bhima defeated Karna to Bhima defeated by Karna storyline — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

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Some more evidence here that I saw. Exact same arguments on a different topic: caste and Mauryan kingdom by the two editors here and  and here by Kai -(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 04:10, 23 September 2022 (UTC))


 * The choice of words in two different topics seem to be exactly same. Rupert stops at Maurya topic, and Kai nearly begins from there after editing a few pages. Apart from this, could you explain what evidence are you are looking for? However, these users may not actually be sockpuppet of the Yashthakur gang, so perhaps a separate thread was needed here. -(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 04:30, 23 September 2022 (UTC))


 * Same arguments here on Hindu mythological wars about "Arjun not being a maharatha", and  Not sure if this counts as evidence apart from POV, since I am kinda new this in. :D - (Panchalidraupadi (talk) 04:40, 23 September 2022 (UTC))


 * Thanks for explaining. From what I see, the two editors have same arguments and POV, on 3 different pages Bhima, Hindu mythological wars and Maurya talk, only the tone is more polished in case of the newer account. Also, given the pattern I have seen in LK's editing, he has done extensive disruption in Bhima page by inverting the content although the cited source says opposite to what he claims as provided. Same was done by Rupert as well. But still if you feel, the two may not be same, then cool. :).  - (Panchalidraupadi (talk) 05:26, 23 September 2022 (UTC))

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 * Added missing section headings. Not sure where those went... --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 04:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * . Lord kai has been CU'd enough times that I think it's safe to say anything would be found. Rupert uddin is stale for CU and not worth investigating behaviorally. Behaviorally I see a lot of evidence that Lk and Y share a POV, but it's not exactly an uncommon POV, and no evidence has been presented of being the same person. Closing. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 22:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's more evidence that they have the same POV, but in the case topic area that's not worth very much. Pick a caste-related POV and there's at least a million people who have it, usually far more. Do you have any evidence of these specifically being the same person, not just haring a POV? --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 04:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * So, in a situation like this, we care a lot more about how people say something than what they say. If two people are both pushing a very niche POV, then that can be useful, but most of the time, showing they believe the same thing is just the first step. The more important thing is writing style. These two users' writing styles looks pretty different. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:08, 23 September 2022 (UTC)