Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yatzhek/Archive

11 February 2014

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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This all originally started after persistent vandalism on the article Black people in Nazi Germany (even after I tried to reasonable discuss this via the user and article talkpages), see [1], after first undoing the false information and tried to have a reasonable discussion on the talk page but was giving nothing but personal attacks (including accusations of racism, anti-Polish, white supremacist and Holocaust denial), the user Yatzhek was giving a warning for the accusation of Holocaust denial. In the last few days, repetitive personal attacks the sympathy card of "sorry" and over-defensive claims by Yatzhek that its not him is showing up, the IP address 78.8.118.133 seems to contradict themselves by first claiming to be from Czech Republic then Poland.

Here is some evidence that makes me suggest these are Yatzhek's sockpuppets:, , , ,.

In regards to Tobby72 user, it seems strange that the user asked Yatzhek to join the debate on the Nazism talk page, see, the user then progressed to comment on the noticeboard, see.

Seems odd that Yatzhek has replied on the investigation, see Windows66 (talk) 18:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


 * What will be the consequences for you, if it turns out that i am anyhow connected to other users mentioned? I want to know if you will be punished for breaking the rules of peaceful attitude towards other users and groundless accusations towards people? 62.87.192.26 (talk) 07:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Yet another different IP address. Admins please check this out. Anonymous, nothing I have said have broke any rules.--Windows66 (talk) 15:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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This accusation is baseless and totally incorrect. I see absolutely no behavior in common between Yatzhek (IPs) and me. I am a long time editor who happens to disagree with Windows66, see, , ,. Windows66 is making "bad faith" accusation against editor who is disagreeing with him/her & expressing the same opinion as Yatzhek ("The Poles and other Slavs were viewed as "sub-humans" by the Nazis.") -- Tobby72 (talk) 22:21, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

It was explained on the articles talk page why it was removed, there is no need to bring it up on here, its irrelevant.--Windows66 (talk) 19:35, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - declining checkuser as the CUs won't connect an IP to a named account and we'll need more evidence to justify running a check on the two named accounts above. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:02, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Procedurally closing as a duplicate case has been opened at Sockpuppet investigations/Tobby72 (with the oldest account listed as suspected master) and the IPs listed here are stale. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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These IPs all geolocate to Łódź in Poland, and every single one of them, as well as the account, has attempted to remove the lead image from the article Untermensch, starting around October of last year. Their deletions have been reverted by myself, and, but I am the editor who just got warned for "edit warring" over this. Almost every time I remove it, I invite discussion on the talk page, but none of the editors have deigned to do so.

Most of the editors use extremely similar edit summaries:


 * "There's nothing specifically "subhuman" about this picture. The same Nazi-propaganda pictures were about ethnically Polish people, Russian people, Gypsies, and of course Jews."


 * "the image has nothing to do with the topic. of course Serbs were classified as "subhuman" just like Poles, Jews, Gypsies and Blacks, but there's nothing specifically "subhuman" about this poster!"


 * "Nothing about the image which makes it referring to Serbs as "untermenschen" or "subhumans". Sure, Serbs, as well as Poles, Jews, Gypsies, Blacks and mixed-race people, were considered "subhumans", but this image does not correspond with the topic!!!!!"


 * "image has nothing to do with the article."


 * "This word was first used in 1922 and popularised in the 30s. It's original research to link it to a WWI poster without a source"


 * Yatzhek: "The German concept of "Untermensch" was first used against ethnic Poles at the times of Partitions of Poland. This anti-Serbian image has nothing to do directly with the concept of the term "Untermensch". It's not even titled with the use that word."


 * "Unrelated image - There is no concept of "subhuman" or "untermensch" used on the posted or in its official description. The same could be told about many other German-propaganda posters depicting Jews, Poles and other groups."

All of this makes it quite clear that these are sockpuppets, or, at the very lest, meatpuppets. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I found one more IP belonging to the same range: who made edits to the same page the master was once blocked for. I blocked this master for 6 months. IP ranges are too busy for blocking, and the article is now protected anyway.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  19:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)