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13 February 2014

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Procedural filing per unrelated group found in results of Sockpuppet investigations/Sibtain 007. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * All blocked and tagged, closing. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

28 September 2015

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Itsalleasy is fairly obvious an undisclosed paid editor - see my note to them. Itsalleasy uploaded several logos for obvious paid editing articles including to 6G Internet (company) that was created by. The other accounts are all SPAs who wrote articles that Itsalleasy has uploaded the logos for:


 * Chrisblazed created Livecoding.tv, Itsalleasy adds the logo 7 minutes later and then JackieO-OOO made some edits, but these may be vandalism.
 * Rajamouliwe created Valmont Group and Kaherdino did some copy editing and Itsalleasy added an infobox.

There may be some more evidence to come later on. SmartSE (talk) 13:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

This group is a little more complicated and less clear cut so I'll list them separately:



The main link is between Itsalleasy and Ireneshih, but there are also potential socks of Ireneshih. Ireneshih created Stanislav Shalunov and then Itsalleasy created LEDBAT which is a technology invented by Shalunov (there is also a whole lot of dodgy users at his company Open Garden which was mainly written by the already blocked, who also patrolled LEDBAT and Shalunov). Erik Barrak was created by the throwaway Hurricaneginger21, edited by Ireneshih and then Itsalleasy patrolled the article and !voted to keep it at AFD.

Ireneshih has a long history of promotional editing, for example SEOZEO and Drync were created with some of their earliest edits. Performance Marketing for Professionals was also created by them back in 2013 before being deleted at AFD but then recreated last week by the SPA. That in itself isn't so strange, but Ireneshih has also !voted to keep articles about both of the book's authors:  which themselves were both created by SPAs:  Murray Newlands by Nadavora and John Rampton by Charlesbayne123. SmartSE (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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It looks like Ireneshih has a pattern of systematically !voting to keep promotional articles created by throwaway accounts, in many cases repeatedly recreated. This list includes all but one of her 2015 AfD keep !votes (the indented names are the throwaway article creators): — Brianhe (talk) 21:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/John_Rampton&diff=prev&oldid=675596795]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pmdtechnologies&diff=prev&oldid=675576415]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cook’n_With_Class&diff=prev&oldid=675566598] - deleted 3 times
 * - Orangemoody sock
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Murray_Newlands_(3rd_nomination)&diff=prev&oldid=651052029] - deleted 5 times
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/IVVVO&diff=prev&oldid=651050289]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Murray_Newlands_(3rd_nomination)&diff=prev&oldid=651052029] - deleted 5 times
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/IVVVO&diff=prev&oldid=651050289]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/IVVVO&diff=prev&oldid=651050289]

So how am I involved here again? You leave a message for me stating that I was paid to write an article and then accuse me of being someone other than myself based on an article that was created years ago by another editor? I'm confused but guarantee you I am no one other than myself and this is the only account I have ever had. Wiki markup isn't that difficult and writing about the topic is easy if you read the book. Does it matter if it is a book on marketing or a book on science fiction? I have no association with these other editors and not sure how you would get that impression simply because I wrote an article that you say is perfect. Feel free to delete all the articles associated with these people if you like as that is there issue, not mine.

--Grackelack (talk) 21:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * SmartSE, I am surprised to see a paid and promotional editing remarks on me which is completely wrong and unacceptable. Following are my answers to your remarks.

1) Stanislav Shalunov- He is known to be one of the creators of LEDBAT used in the torrent technology. I have seen his work and following him from a long time, so created his article. Not sure about notability but it is certainly not a paid editing. 2) Drync:- While reading articles on quite a notable websites Techcrunch, NYTimes, Mashable and quite a few others. In my early days on Wikipedia, I thought to give a try. However I have marked it for deletion to deny claim of paid editing. 3) SEOZEO- Now I completely agree that it doesn't deserves a space however as one of my first edits I couldn't identify what is notable and what is not. I hope this must be same case with SmartSE and Brianhe, if this is not the case, I will accept that I wasn't that smart enough. 4) Erik Barrak:- I cannot see what my edits was, however I have started patrolling new pages and making some edits to learn constructive editing. This is certainly one of those early edits. 5) Facebook Marketing Partners:- A regular FB follower and I still believe this page deserves a place. If a page doesn't have several references it doesn't mean its not notable. Trust me or not Mark Zuckerberg, didn't paid me for this either. 6) Flag jacking:- Brianhe your recent edits here, I wouldn't certainly agree, even notable sources mentions details of the flightnetwork. I wouldn't argue on it otherwise you will say its paid editing. 7) Performance Marketing for Professionals:- Again during my early days, I certainly don't know what is notable what is not. Reading a lot technology articles, you will find Murray Newlands every third-fifth day, a mention about him or his articles. Creating a page about them, doesn't mean that I have been paid rather I have been following them. I have voted when I thought it was notable, I never argued too much or edited too much to display a COI or paid editing. I have moved it to AFD to again display my commitment.

If a user is a newbie, he cannot become an expert in few months like SmartSE and Brianhe, he is likely to create pages that are non-notable. I believe in making Wikipedia a better place and had made several comments on AFD like here, here. I have just started helping users to make them understand what Wikipedia is and what Wikipedia is not. Did I ever demanded for any right on Wikipedia, nope I didn't. When I have started learning and using Wikipedia effectively, you are claiming for a paid edit which is not a case. Instead of commenting me as a sock, please give a close look at my edit history. As far as behavior pattern is concerned, If i look at any two admins, rollbackers it would be the same. Also note, I have edited this page quite a few times in the short duration, please do not use WP:COI here for me.

Yunshui, has also confirmed there is nothing linked, which means I am not what you are mentioning me as. The only thing that drives me to edit Wikipedia is people like Brianhe who spends too much time to make Wikipedia a very clean place.Ireneshih (talk) 15:52, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just as a procedural note: the fact that I could find no technical evidence to link the accounts listed here may mean that they are entirely unrelated, may mean that they are a co-ordinated group of separate individuals, may mean that they are one individual with access to multiple devices on different ISPs, or may mean that I'm just not very good at finding technical links. The technical information below is presented as entirely neutral, and at the current time I maintain no position with regards to whether these accounts are related or not. Yunshui 雲 水 19:54, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * There's a tenuous but link between:
 * However, nothing in the technical data suggests any clear link bewteen the other accounts listed (many of which are too old to check anyway). THis is going to have to be decided on behaviour. Yunshui 雲 水 08:10, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm that's somewhat surprising. Given that Ireneshih and Itsalleasy are fairly obvious undisclosed paid editors and also likely to be meating, I think that in itself is cause to block, but would prefer for someone else to take a look. SmartSE (talk) 16:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * However, nothing in the technical data suggests any clear link bewteen the other accounts listed (many of which are too old to check anyway). THis is going to have to be decided on behaviour. Yunshui 雲 水 08:10, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm that's somewhat surprising. Given that Ireneshih and Itsalleasy are fairly obvious undisclosed paid editors and also likely to be meating, I think that in itself is cause to block, but would prefer for someone else to take a look. SmartSE (talk) 16:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:22, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Procedural close without prejudice. Please refile if there is further evidence.

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The latest round of this investigation closed with saying "Please refile if there is further evidence" (7 November 2015). I located off-wiki (job board broker) evidence that Ireneshih definitively edited Greg Kolodziejzyk for hire on this series of edits in February 2015. They denied such editing November 2015. Editor has continued editing in 2016 with many, many AfDs recorded here; and random edits in 2017.

In light of this, the evidence provided by 28 September 2015 linking Itsalleasy and Ireneshih as paid editors must be reexamined. ☆ Bri (talk) 05:05, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Hurricaneginger21, named earlier, was still actively editing last month. ☆ Bri (talk) 05:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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Checkuser comments: I'm not seeing anything that indicates these three accounts are linked in any way. last edited in February 2017, in 2015, and  has no intersecting edits with the other accounts. There may be a good argument that the article written by Hurricanginger21 in recent months does not meet notability standards, but that is a matter for AFD. To reiterate: No evidence provided that these three accounts are linked. Risker (talk) 05:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC)