Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yusuf.Abdullah/Archive

Report date October 27 2009, 13:13 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Both users made same edits here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ALove_Jihad&action=historysubmit&diff=322190201&oldid=321690730 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ALove_Jihad&action=historysubmit&diff=322258420&oldid=322227355. And also here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_Jihad&action=historysubmit&diff=322259052&oldid=322242075 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_Jihad&action=historysubmit&diff=322189286&oldid=322135171. Edits of this user in Love Jihad consists of vandalism whereas Anon. user has been reverting the edits after I cleaned up. In the history of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_Jihad&action=history, one can see that both editors edited at the same time with a difference of 2 minutes, at 01:29, 27 October 2009 and 01:27, 27 October 2009. ZencvLets discuss 13:13, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by ZencvLets discuss

It is clear that I am being framed because I tried to stop the page banking and vandalism done by the accuser in the article Love Jihad. The user have been repeatedly trying to vandalize the article, and even tried to get the article deleted. See here:Articles_for_deletion/Love_Jihad As his intention failed, he is trying to ban anyone who is trying to defend the article. A further check in to the contributions made by Zencv suggests that he has made a number of controversial edits to the articles about Terrorist organizations like National Development Front which is linked to Al Qaeda. If anyone should be banned here, this user Zencv, should be banned due to his vandalism in support of the terrorist organizations. Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 13:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

Further more, the IP he had referred (203.180.31.95) is that of the University Library where I am studying. There are hundreds of students here, who use the same IP (and I know a few others,who are Wiki users), as we are having a centralized server. Stop linking the IP with me, as it makes me an easy target for reprisals by Islamic extremists. I request the admins to ban the user Zencv, for the time being from editing the article Love Jihad.

Even from his talk page, it is clear that Zencv has been warned dozens of times for waging edit wars and even received 3RR warnings (2 times). He has deleted most of the warnings, but can be viewed from the older versions in history. I want someone neutral here. Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 16:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

'''I might have made some edits while I was logged out of Wikipedia. The thing is that I don't need another username, as I have already made the reverts earlier and it has already exposed me.''' Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Everyone can make such an argument. You admitted that you have been editing with atleast 2 different identities - one an IP address and other the user User:Yusuf.Abdullah and both were used to make highly contentious edits which violate many rules and policies. It is clearly a sockpuppet case and user should be banned  Z e n c v  Whisper  17:11, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure. I must be banned, so that you can continue destroying the article. The only edits you were doing out there was page blanking and vandalism (opinion shared by at least a dozen people who contributed to the article. Most of the people used IPs instead of their real user names, as the topic is highly controversial and they were fearful of reprisal by fanatics. If this is the reason to ban me, then the same would apply to around 15 other users, who edited the Love Jihad anonymously). Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Yusuf, you said "I want someone neutral here.", but neutrality doesn't enter into it, this isn't dispute resolution. If you are truly not related to the IP, you should be happy to have a sockpuppet/checkuser run against it to prove you are not related. tedder (talk) 16:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users
 * By his own admission, IP address belongs to his university library. The fact that he and the IP user made the same edits into the same article within a difference of just 2 minutes says it all.  Z e n c v  Whisper  16:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions
 * I see no violation of WP:SOCK. It is obvious that Yusuf was the one editing on this IP while logged out. While he should take more care to remember to log in next time, he did not use the IP to edit war. The IP made only a series of undos. So, I will mark this closed as no action taken, but warn both parties that future edit warring will result in a block of both of them. NW ( Talk ) 05:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Sole Soul
Both users added links pointing to Love Jihad in multiple articles recently. Compare with. Edits by Yusuf.Abdullah include. Edits by Keysvolume (blocked indef) include. Sole Soul (talk) 07:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Addition:
 * Keyvolume edited in 15-16 Oct and stopped.
 * Yusuf.Abdullah in 17 and stopped.
 * Keyvolume edited in 21-25 Oct then was blocked.
 * Yusuf.Abdullah from 26 until now. Sole Soul (talk) 14:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.


 * First of all, I don't have anything to do with User:Keysvolume. I don't need a sock for any purpose.


 * This is the third time in two days I am targeted by User talk:Zencv and his Jihadi / Extremist friends. I have already given the explanation yesterday to the admins here:Sockpuppet_investigations/Yusuf.Abdullah/Archive and here:User_talk:Yusuf.Abdullah. Rather than allowing this sort of bullying to happen again and again, admins should check the user history of the vandal User talk:Zencv, who has been given close to 3 dozen 3RR warnings so far for his vandalism in support of terrorist organizations like National Development Front.


 * Please look in to the "mobilization of radicals" attempted by User talk:Zencv, like he did here: User_talk:Itaqallah


 * After warned by the admins to stop the edit war in Love Jihad, I complied with the admin's request, but the vandal User talk:Zencv didn't.


 * Please stop disruptive editing by User:Zencv, plz check his history.

I hope the admins will understand the frequent harassment faced by me for showing the courage to revert the vandalisms done in pages like National Development Front.

Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 15:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If User talk:Zencv is a vandal as you say, then I urge you to report him to an adminstrator. You can report him in WP:AIV or WP:ANI. Sole Soul (talk) 15:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

As User talk:Zencv is accusing me of sock puppetry every day, I have a solution. I am ready to undergo checkuser with every user who has edited Love Jihad so far. User:Zencv should also do this and he must leave me alone if the allegations are found false. Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 02:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keyvolume has never edited Love Jihad, which is a little strange giving the number of links pointing to Love Jihad he added to other articles. Sole Soul (talk) 03:54, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments by other users
Yusuf, your name calling and personal insults have reached appalling levels. Your message as evident here smells of stealth canvassing. The fact that your fellow user later refactored his talk page to remove the message doesn't speak of something good of this  Z e n c v  Whisper  16:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't indulged in name calling. Since you were editing in support of known terrorist organizations, it was called you "editing in support of Jihadi organizations".

And second, I didn't indulged in stealth canvassing. If you are having any strong evidence of stealth canvassing, then put it here, not some fairy tales.

Third, from nowhere you suddenly appeared here. Is this some kind of magic? Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The link I posted clearly shows that you have been involved in canvassing(that is the reason why your worried friend deleted the message immediately) and recruited many other meatpuppets. The users User:Michael.Kaamarajan and User:Patriot_indian_muslim are  single purpose accounts which popped up yesterday to revert exactly those edits which I had been making   Z e n c v  Whisper  18:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * To further clarify your allegation. I was not even referring to anything related to wikipedia with him. I needed to talk to him about some other things urgently and as I had no other options to contact him, I put a message on his talk page. And further more, I don't know anything about the users User:Michael.Kaamarajan and User:Patriot_indian_muslim. There were about 12-15 people who complained in the talk page against your vandalism. Are you going to say that all of them are my socks????? Yusuf.Abdullah (talk) 01:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - It is unfair to slam one sockpuppetry case after another on a user. The issue of Love Jihad has come in all national TV channels, and so everyone is editing the article. I have suggested the user to use talk page to discuss the article edit. Porsched sgools (talk) 03:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Socking and meatpuppetting are not OK regardless of any particulat article. Please check your facts first. This investigation was NOT started by me anyway and there was a good reason why someone started it. Diffs don't cheat normally  Z e n c v  Whisper  08:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

CheckUser request
Self-endorsing for CU attention. It's either meatpuppetry or straight socking going on. I think a check can determine which is going on. MuZemike 19:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * Waiting on requested review from another EnWiki checkuser. -- Avi (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Findings reviewed; please see below. -- Avi (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions
-- Avi (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. —  Jake   Wartenberg  22:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)