Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zenzyyx/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Zenzyyx was topic banned from AA on 14 August. Three days later a new account appears, and as their first contribution edit-wars with the same user Zenzyyx was edit-warring just prior to their tban. Both double wlink Turkey in their edits, see, ,. Both use the same "as stated in the article" as part of their edit summaries,, , ,. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:28, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * – I'm not willing to block on behaviour alone, but I think sockpuppetry is plausible enough for a check based on the information in the filing; I'll add that they both edit using the Android app, and this summary similarity:, and the use of suggestedit, see . --Blablubbs (talk) 12:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Salvio 14:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Disappointing (especially because I warned them for a minor TBAN violation and they promised it "wouldn't happen again" mere hours after they had socked around the ban), but I can't say I'm surprised. 1 month AE block for the master for deliberate and deceptive TBAN evasion, indef for the sock. Closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 15:05, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
See for the previous (confirmed) case about Zenzyyx, who as a result is blocked for a month till 19 September 2022.

Not long after that block, TheMiddleMan69 made his first edit in 7 September, which was a short description change, something Zenzyxx did very often

On 17 September, TheMiddleMan69 started his second edit and more; in fact, he made a barrage of edits, removing non-Turkish names in Turkey-related articles, which he claimed to be translations and historical names and thus should apparently be removed due to WP:PLACE? How does a brand new user know of this guideline and goes on to mention it in a removing spree in over 10 articles (and even resorted to edit warring in some of them)? Zenzyxx has also tried to remove non-Turkish names in Turkey related articles in the past

How is this TheMiddleMan69 already so well aware of the concept of consensus that we follow here? "Let's reach a consensus". Notice also the way he communicates there (trying to lecture WP:PLACE, his general communication skills), this is too good/familiar for a new editor.

Moreover, there are already a few similarities in the EIA results even though TheMiddleMan69 has only a few edits in.

TheMiddleMan69 is apparently a 'proud Brit' with a huge wallpaper of the Queen, yet has only edited in Turkey-related articles? In his previous sock account, Zenzyyx masqueraded as an Armenian through his name "Արարատ0" (Armenian for Ararat, the national symbol of Armenia). HistoryofIran (talk) 22:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:09, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Master CU blocked indef. Existing AE block that expires 19 Sept 2022 still applies until it was due to expire to comply with the DS procedures. or any other admin has my permission to make the first year (or shorter) of my CU block also an AE block as deemed appropriate (cannot be longer than a year per policy and permission stated here just in case it's deemed as needed). Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:24, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Like Zenzyxxs sock TheMiddleMan69, the vast majority of Dobriva edits have something to do with removing non-Turkic names in locations in Turkey. For a new user, Dobriva sure displays the behaviour of someone who is well acquainted with Wikipedia, even knowing of WP:COMMON NAME on their ninth edit

Exact same edits;

TheMiddleMan69 Dobriva

TheMiddleMan69 Dobriva HistoryofIran (talk) 01:28, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

EDIT: Just for safety measure, their edit summaries are also incredibly similar. Also, one more example TheMiddleMan69 Dobriva --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:54, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * The old accounts are stale. There was some data in the CU logs, so I compared against that, and find no technical connection. However, people do move, and it is very hard to look past the fact that this account is making all the same edits at all the same pages in very much the same manner. If it isn't WP:SOCK it's very likely WP:MEAT, and I'm blocking either way. Closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  08:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * 1) Incredibily similar EIU with Zenzyyx and their socks, despite Omnibenevolence being a new user, and some of the articles listed are quite niche areas (Władysław Czajkowski, Afro-Turks). Like Zenzyyx and co, their incredibly focused on removing non-Turkish names in Turkey place articles with very similar edit summaries (eg     ). The EIU also shows an interest in Ottoman-related articles (eg   ).
 * 2) At Kingdom of Pontus, they both tried to make mention of modern-day Turkey
 * 3) At Tigris, both are particularly interested in emphasizing it's relation to Turkey
 * 4) Both apparently have some connection to the UK, and frequently edit their userpage
 * 5) This is harder to demonstrate, but their English skills are pretty much one to one. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:44, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * ✅. DatGuyTalkContribs 01:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)