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15 October 2012

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Splitting from investigation at Sockpuppet investigations/JoetheMoe25. AGK [•] 22:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' N/A. See original investigation for any comments made in the course of this investigation. AGK [•] 22:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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This investigation was originally located at Sockpuppet investigations/JoetheMoe25. During that investigation, a checkuser announced the following results:

These results, and the list of accounts under "Group 1", have been copied here. The full results by Avraham, the original investigation, and the accounts under "Group 2", are retained at the original investigation page. This is an clerical/administrative action, taken to list the correct accounts under the correct investigation pages. The original results and blocks remain the responsibility of the respective administrators or checkusers. Further investigation concerning Zhoban/"Group 1" should be directed here; investigation concerning JoetheMoe25 should be directed to the above-linked investigation. AGK [•] 22:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

03 October 2014

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I had reverted some edits that Icehound2 made to the List of Saw characters article. I removed an edit that Icehound2 made saying "Jigsaw rhetorically asks Tapp if he's a "murderer" for killing his servant." This edit had been previously undone by ClueBotNG, so when Icehound2 undid ClueBotNG's edit, I reverted Icehound2's edit. That might not have been the right thing to do, but I reverted the edit, believing that this user was re-adding vandalism to the article. The user also edited the section on the character Melissa Sing, stating that "in the Freedom ending, she is saved along with her son and the other surviving victims in the asylum and set free, never having her incidental ties to Jigsaw revealed." It had originally only stated that she is saved along with the other victims and set free (there is no mention of her son since her son is one of the victims who is also set free). Icehound2 made these edits on October 1, 2014.

On October 3, 2014 WindsofDestruction started making edits from that account to the List of Saw characters article, stating in his edit summaries things about edits he was restoring, such as the one he made on Pighead. The edit summary for the character Pighead states "He says "you killed my servant. Does that make you a murderer?' He didn't outright say you're a murderer". This was referring to the revert I made to Icehound2 on the same article section. In another edit, WindsofDestruction says in his edit summary "How funny. You quietly remove my edits yet keep unsourced stuff. They were never Jigsaw apprentices by the way. They just helped Gordon." I never removed any of his edits up until today, since he didn't start editing Wikipedia until today. The fact that I had reverted the edit Icehound2 made to Pighead and then my revert was reverted by WindsofDestruction, with a message in the edit summary saying "How funny. You quietly remove my edits yet keep unsourced stuff..." (I had reverted/changed most of Icehound2's edits because they were either unsourced, poorly worded, or seemed like points of view) makes me believe that WindsofDestruction is a sockpuppet of Icehound2. Saturn 28 (talk) 21:35, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the investigation; but it looks like WindsofDestruction wasn't blocked. I think he is a sockpuppet too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saturn 28 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * This is a huge sockfarm. I'll confirm the accounts shortly.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:40, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, so this guy was creating new accounts each day to edit. The following accounts are ✅:

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC) "*, and  are also ✅. There is some question, raised on the SPI talk page, as to whether this is associated to this master, but I won't have time to take a look at the behavioural evidence until tomorrow. If a clerk wants to review the evidence and move this report if needed in the meantime, please do.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  16:09, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Everything is blocked. Given their concentration on controversial Islamic militant topics, with the occasional foray into horror movies, I can't believe it was List of Saw characters that was their downfall. --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  23:02, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The account Wickedvulture is the oldest so we may move the case name to the new master. Also awaiting 's confirmation of the above question regarding WindsofDestruction.
 * As a note to whoever takes this investigation up, the evidence that this sock master is Zhoban is based on the fact that the I.P. address which all of the above socks are based from, 96.59.223.143, proclaimed at the end of May of this year that they are one in the same with these charming edit summaries directed at me. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 21:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  21:16, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've moved the case name to Zhoban. I'll leave it for another clerk or CU to confirm my move, tag and close.
 * Everything checks out for me. I've tagged the accounts as well. Mike V  •  Talk  04:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

22 May 2015

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Already checked and confirmed, noting here for the record. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Continuation of ✅ socks:


 * all accounts have been blocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  01:11, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Already checked, noting here for the record. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  16:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * As above. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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Per a previous discussion on the SPI page, I've decided to file a report, with the intent to not only notify about an active IP that is explicitly targeting the usual pages, (Resident Evil, The Godfather and Islamic terror), but to merge the first two archived cases - (1 & 2). The pages are not only identical to the ones previously edited, but the editing style is, as well - mirroring edits made in 2009. Though merging archives is not common, this is a clear-cut case and allotting the sock puppets would be beneficial for reference purposes.  BOTTO ( T • C ) 19:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @Botto you say they're "mirroring edits made in 2009"; can you point out specific pairs of edits that were mirrored? There's a lot of history to dig through here, but it sounds like you've already done that so please share the specifics. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure thing--
 * An old AN/I thread, for context.
 * Another old AN/I thread.
 * An AN/I thread about the newest IP.
 * JohnRamirez IP in May 2010 vs new Zhoban IP in October 2020 - This page is actually the one that alerted me to his resurgence, as it's stuffed full of contributions made by his confirmed socks over the years.
 * JohnRamirez IP in February 2010 vs Zhoban in September 2012.
 * Primary Zhoban IP from June 2014 vs new Zhoban IP in March 2021.
 * New Zhoban IP in March 2021 vs JohnRamirez/MarkAldred in May 2009.  BOTTO ( T • C ) 15:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * I'm not seeing anything in the diffs that makes me think socking. In any case, this is all ancient history; there's really not much value to digging deep into a 10 year old case. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:27, 15 July 2021 (UTC)