Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zinbarg/Archive

Evidence submitted by Jayjg
was recently blocked for 72 hours, primarily for edit-warring for months to add a POV template to the lede of the Circumcision article. While Zinbarg was blocked, an IP editor showed up to re-add the exact same template, including the original December 2009 date: Note, this is an AOL dialup IP; editors often use AOL dialup accounts to avoid exact CU matches. As a result, it may not match Zinbarg's usual IP, and geolocation information may well be meaningless. However, there may well be other information provided by the edit that will serve to tie the two accounts together. Jayjg (talk) 01:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Jakew
Let me add to Jayjg's report: Another AOL IP address has made a similar edit to the article. My guess is that this is the same editor, thus it is possible that checking both users may be productive. Jakew (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by Jayjg (talk) 01:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

– Looks like the IP is clearly Zinbarg. Looks more like a case of editing while logged out. Even if not, wouldn't be that good an idea to have CU try and disclose that. –MuZemike 03:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Neither Zinbarg nor the IP have made an edit in at least 24 hours. I don't think a block for evasion is going to help much, but we can leave this open for just a bit and see if they do edit again. –MuZemike 03:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree, and that was the extent of it. ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 01:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Jayjg
In a previous report 172.190.47.69 and 172.190.65.56 were identified as probable socks of Zinbarg, the former having edited while Zinbarg was blocked from editing. That report was closed through lack of activity. Unfortunately activity has continued since, and there is further evidence of block evasion and manipulation of consensus.

Since that time, additional socks have appeared. 172.191.170.223 continued edit warring begun by Zinbarg. 172.190.204.241 and 172.191.234.191 engaged in widespread canvassing; while the IP was blocked for this Zinbarg reappeared and edited under his own username. Most recently, 172.190.114.250 made edits in which he referred to Zinbarg in the third person, also listing both himself and Zinbarg separately when attempting to establish consensus for Zinbarg's position in a dispute.

The IPs have engaged in exactly the same edit wars as Zinbarg, and have also made the same arguments in talk page discussions. As before, these are AOL dialup IPs; editors often use AOL dialup accounts to avoid exact CU matches. As a result, it may not match Zinbarg's usual IP, and geolocation information may well be meaningless. However, there may well be other information provided by the edit that will serve to tie the two accounts together. There are also other "tells", that I can provide via e-mail to the person investigating, but wouldn't want to make publicly, as advertising these things just tends to make sockpuppeters smarter. Jayjg (talk) 03:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * Technically ; behavioral evidence is convincing. --jpgordon:==( o ) 20:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there's not much we can do here, due to massive collateral damage. Tim Song (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

12 June 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

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Started making exact same edit at colonoscopy right after sock of Zinbag was blocked. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * - Blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK. I'm endorsing for sleepers against this account and, though I doubt we'll find much. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 07:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No sleepers. TN X Man  14:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

12 June 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

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Has started commenting on the circumcision page shortly after another one of Zinbarg's socks was blocked User:Earthsales5. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

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User:kyledueck appears ❌ to User:Earthsales5 (Zinbarg is stale). Keep an eye for more behavioral evidence; if warranted we can check again later. Frank &#124;  talk  14:57, 13 June 2011 (UTC)