Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ZmajeviOdBosne/Archive

Report date August 17 2009, 04:31 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

I think this guy is creating sockpuppets to minupulate the outcome on a vote on whether to delete the template Untrue. The first piece of evidence comes from ZmajeviOdBosne agreeing with SabeSabe as if he already knew the person and the conversation and the fact that they were able to find and post a vote on TFD despite the fact that most new users wouldn't know how the voting and deletion process works.
 * Evidence submitted by Taylor Karras

Second piece of evidence is that the user in general posts a comment on the TFD nomination about how they're using smear tactics to accuse the new users (the sockpuppets respectively) of being SPA's when there were minor mentions of the users in general, he also states how ugly the conversation has gotten despite the fact that most the conversation has been tame. The message in general seems to be supporting them like he knew them despite the lack of ugliness in the conversation and in note is also overly dramatic

Final piece of evidence is the fact that they have not editied any other articles since they signed up (SabeSabe has not made another edit since 15 August 2009), what surprises me is the fact that ZmajeviOdBosne has added a userbox to his page that says "This user supports the policies and views of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul." (which does not normally happen since Wikipedia discourages other users from editing user pages except to revert vandalism), the same one that was on Smith Jones page, and the fact that he knows how to create a userpage despite being a new user. I'm also suspecting a little WP:DUCK in here.

While I respect Smith Jones opinions and I respect mine, this is not political nor is it personal. Wikipedia generally allows one vote per user and that does not include sockpuppets, and that one vote per user rule insures that we have a fair and valid concensus. --Taylor Karras (talk) 04:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * comment - I appreicate the hard work of the CheckUser in this case in exonerating me as a sockpupper of these other user. However, I was wondering if The allegations posted on the user pages of the other sockpuppets, accusing me of being their sockpuppet controller, be removed and the category here be deleted. I understand that my name has to remain here as part of the record but since I am innocent I was hoping we could limit the accusation to just this Sockpuppet Investigations page and not elsewhere. Thank you for your time. User:Smith Jones 17:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users

Requested by Taylor Karras (talk) 04:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

✅ as, and. is ❌. – Brandon 05:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC) Blocked and tagged. — Jake   Wartenberg  17:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions