Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/About

This page only deals with the deletion and renaming of stub types, which consist of a template and a category, and are intended to be used for sorting stubs. Stub templates that are missing categories and stub categories without associated templates are also appropriate here. All other templates or categories nominated for deletion or renaming have to be put on Templates for discussion or Categories for discussion, respectively.

About this page
This page is for the proposal, discussion, and voting on deletion or renaming of stub categories, stub templates, and stub redirects. Centralizing the vote on these three closely related matters on one page reduces the need for repeating identical arguments on several different Wikipedia deletion pages (Categories for discussion, Templates for discussion, and Redirects for discussion) and also reduces the workload on those pages.

This page is still named "Stub types for deletion" for two reasons. Firstly, many of the stub types brought here arrive here after rudimentary discussion has already taken place at WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. Secondly, renaming automatically implies some form of deletion. The renaming of a stub category leads to the replacement and deletion of the older category, and the renaming of a stub template usually (but not always) leads to the deletion of the previous template name, as stub template redirects are rarely used (for the reasons for this, see the stub naming conventions).

Putting a stub type on Stub types for deletion (SfD), and what happens afterwards

 * Mark the affected pages:
 * For deletion:
 * Put sfd-t on stub templates
 * Put sfd-c on stub categories
 * Put sfd-r on stub redirects, and include the redirect target after it (see below for details)
 * For renaming:
 * Put (parameter optional) on stub templates
 * Put (parameter optional) on stub categories
 * Put (parameter optional) on stub redirects (Redirects should be nominated for renaming only as part of a mass renaming that includes templates that share the name element to be renamed that the redirect uses.)
 * List the stub type below in a new subsection [ at the top of the section which has the current date]. If that section does not yet exist, create it. If you did have to create a new section, you then need to add that section to the listings below.
 * Mention all affected pages in the subheading, like this:

banana stub / Category:Banana stubs / YellowCurvyFruit-stub (redirect)

 * Also mention how many articles currently use the template, and if it is listed anywhere else.
 * Of course, state your reason for nominating the stub type!
 * It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors to the stub that you are nominating the stub. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the stub. Some standard pre-formed notices are sfdnotify1, sfdnotify2, or sfd-notice.
 * After a voting period of seven days, action will be taken if there is consensus on the fate of the stub type. Please do not act before this period is over.
 * Archived discussions are logged here, and are marked with sfd top and sfd bottom, indicating whether category and template were renamed, deleted, or no action taken.

Putting sfd-r or sfr-r on redirects
Given that the sfd-r and sfr-r templates break redirection, it is necessary to change a stub redirect when adding the template, as follows:

should be changed to:

Possible reasons for the deletion of a stub type

 * It is not used in any article, and its category is empty.
 * It overlaps with other stub types, or duplicates them outright.
 * Its scope is too limited - As a rule of thumb, there should be at least 50 existing appropriate stub articles, 30 if there is a specific associated WikiProject.
 * Its scope is too ambiguous or vague - in these cases, renaming may be more appropriate than outright deletion.
 * The stub category or template is misnamed. In this case, make this clear when nominating and propose a new category or template name. Note that - in the case of a template but not a category - it may be more appropriate to make it into a redirect.
 * They are malformed, misnamed, or deprecated redirects. See the stub naming guidelines for details on how stubs are named.

What this page is not for

 * Stub templates that were not approved by the WikiProject and/or created through the proposal process (unless other reasons apply) — list those on WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. From there, they may later be taken to this page
 * Patently nonsensical or insulting stub types — they may be speedily deleted.
 * Empty categories with no corresponding template — they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD) criterion C1).
 * Recently created stub types not used on any articles — they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per WP:CSD criterion C1). This does not apply to types properly proposed and accepted which have not yet been populated.
 * Malformed stub types to which no further deletion reasons apply — fix them or tell the WikiProject Stub sorting.
 * Stub categories that are too large — these are not deleted, even if they get subdivided.

Typical opinion options

 * Keep (do not delete or modify)
 * Delete (delete template and category)
 * Merge with xx-stub (delete category, keep template (either as redirect to, or feeding into the same category as, xx-stub))
 * Merge with xx-stub without redirect (delete category and template, put xx-stub on all articles that use it)
 * Upmerge (merge to parent stub type, typically by keeping the template but redirecting it to the parent stub category for potential re-splitting later)
 * Change scope (reword the template, typically giving it either a larger or more precise scope. Usually also means renaming the category)

When expressing an opinion, please try to give a more substantial reason than simply "I like it/find it useful" or "I dislike it/don't find it useful".

Renaming options

 * Rename/Support
 * (for templates: move to new name, replace existing usages, delete redirect);
 * (for categories: recreate category page under new name, repopulate, delete old category).
 * Rename, keep redirect/Move (for templates only: move, but don't replace usages of existing template)
 * Oppose (no move of template, and/or deletion and recreation of category)


 * DO NOT rename any stub type that has been nominated here while discussion is still in progress. Any necessary renaming will be done when the discussion is closed.

If a template is speedily renamed, similarly re-tag the resultant redirect if deletion of that is desired.
 * If you wish to argue for the deletion of a template or category nominated for renaming, please re-tag with sfd-t/sfd-c, and note the date of doing so, so as to ensure proper consideration of this new nomination.

Note to non-administrators
If a category and/or stub deletion is agreed upon and you're helping to change the stubs on those pages: Once you've emptied the category, please note the category on this page under the "To Delete" section that the stub category section is empty ("orphaned") and "ready to be deleted" to the administrators.