Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2006/October/30

October 30

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The result of the debate was rename to SeventhdayAdventist-

Seventh-day Adventist-stub → something without spaces
I don't much care if this ends up at SeventhDayAdventist-stub, Seventh-dayAdventist-stub (which it was created at, and is now a redirect, due to a move to the current name), Seventh-day-Adventist-stub, Seventh-Day-Adventist-stub, but the space-filled name doesn't meet the stub naming guidelines. Alai 06:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Correct use of the church's name is "Seventh-day Adventist", with the hypen and lowercase "d" for day (and including the space)! The officially preferred abbreviation is "Adventist" not "SDA", for reasons of disambiguation and avoidance of exclusivism. This makes the naming tricky:
 * will not work because "Adventist" as a standalone term has a broader meaning
 * (the original name I used) looks awkward
 * has strange capitalization and leaves out the hyphen
 * overuse of hyphens, but not too bad
 * I prefer the following two names:
 * incorrect capitalization, but still looks good
 * not the preferred abbreviation, but looks good and "exclusivity" not a problem because stub naming is for editors not for readers. Still, there are other uses of the abbreviation "SDA", although it is unlikely a stub class will be formed for them. -Colin MacLaurin 08:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd also have no objection to Adventist-stub, at least until such time as the other A-ist denoms object, or perhaps SDAdventist-stub. SDA-stub is way too cryptic and ambiguous:  see SDA.  One might argue that Seventh-day-Adventist-stub is correct on the basis that "Seventh-day-" is a qualifier of a possible, if admittedly currently hypothetical, Adventist-stub for the larger grouping.  Alai 17:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * How about SeventhDay-stub? it also gets around whether the stub is for the religion or its adherents, since the term "Seventh Day Adventist" could refer to the people alone. Grutness...wha?  23:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I do not recommend SeventhDay-stub because some other groups also call themselves "Seventh Day". Yet I agree with your point; the stub is intended for the denomination - so we should make it an "ism". How about SeventhDayAdventism-stub? That is the natural name that a user unaware of the preferred punctuation would choose. -Colin MacLaurin 13:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Question: Would anybody be offended if the form "7th" was used? — CharlotteWebb 19:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Support SeventhdayAdventist-stub or Seventh-day-Adventist-stub as a compromise. Pegship 22:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * How about either SeventhdayAdventist-stub or SeventhDayAdventist-stub? -Colin MacLaurin 15:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Sorry for violating guidelines about spaces with the move, I was not aware that stub templates had so much bureaucracy behind them. Having a capital "D" for day is incorrect in the general case, so I do not see why it would work like that. SeventhDay-stub doesn't reflect any usage of the term currently. Also not sure why hyphens are a bad thing. The template name is not actually seen by readers so I guess its not such a bad thing, but as a user of the template I do not mind at all about long or hyphenated names. Something I can remember is more important, and either Seventh-day-Adventist-stub or SeventhdayAdventist-stub are what I would actually remember, assuming the template name currently with spaces is strictly disallowed. Ans e ll  23:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Support How about SeventhdayAdventist-stub then? -Colin MacLaurin 17:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * sounds good to me - in answer to Ansell's question about hyphens, BTW, Seventh-day-Adventist-stub would indicate that the stub was a subtype of day-Adventist-stub, which was a subtype of Adventist-stub. Grutness...wha?  21:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I guess the specific use of hyphens in stub tags has a reason then. Sorry again for fooling around with the system with my move. :) I think in the case that hyphens have a specific use, and SeventhDayAdventist-stub is technically incorrect and troublesome for future use of the capital D by other editors unknowingly, I also agree that SeventhdayAdventist-stub should be the final solution. Ans e ll  02:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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KCR stub → KCR-stub; MTR stub→ MTR-stub

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The result of the debate was rename

I'm doubtful if these were ever proposed, or are anything but highly cryptically named, especially as regards the categories, but I'm certain that the non-hyphenated template names are contra the stub naming guidelines. No problem as to population or scope, though. Rename those, at the least. Alai 03:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * support, with deletion of the redirects. I suspect the hand of one of our old friends in these... Grutness...wha?  21:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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