Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/August/1

Category:Taito stubs

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The result of the debate was delete

Delete - An editor who did not understand that Taito is a part of Square Enix created this unproposed category for Taito-videogame-stub (which itself survived an earlier SfD here). If Taito stubs do not go into Category:Square Enix stubs then that category would only hold 36 stubs, which is around half of the minimum. Basically, I'd rather delete this one than that one, as Taito is a Square Enix property, and there is a WikiProject Square Enix. ~ JohnnyMrNinja  02:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have edited the Category:Square Enix stubs text to clearly state the relationship. ~ JohnnyMrNinja  03:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Honestly wasn't aware of this, I assumed Taito were still their own property. Still, the fact that the Square Enix catagory has fewer stubs than Taito does (by quite a margin) would indicate there is potentially room for Taito to have it's own stubs set...? Not sure.  Overlord 11001001  17:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not in this case, since the size of the SE category is notn suchn that it needs splitting. Stub categories have different size requirements to standard "permanent" categories, since they are used for a different purpose. With only 150-odd stubs between the two, there is no need to separate these out. Grutness...wha?  01:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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Afl-bio-1980s-stub

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The result of the debate was delete

A direct and unproposed copy of AFL-bio-1980s-stub. not even a redirect, this template simply transcluded a second template in its text. There is no such thing as an afl - these players are AFL players. As such, "Afl-x-stub" breaks the naming conventions. Delete Grutness...wha?  01:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - likely created by someone who was trying to be helpful (as when people normally create redirects for alternate capitalizations) and didn't understand the concept of a stub redirect. ~ JohnnyMrNinja  06:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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Tv-autobio-stub

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The result of the debate was delete

Unproposed. It's not part of the stubbing task to say who wrote an article - it makes no difference in finding specific articles., and there are already templates which are designed to do this non-stub-elated task. A bad precedent, too, since it would require the doubling of the numbers of virtually all bio-stub types if this was to become standard practice. Unnecessary and unhelpful. Delete. Grutness...wha?  01:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Autobiographical articles are inherently biased and SHOULD be monitored to ensure that the author isn't attempting to self-promote via WP. Writing your OWN article in Wikipedia is extremely bad form, and should be discouraged as much as possible! Propose to expand the usage of this template. Aug 1, 2007
 * Did you actually read my comments? There are already templates which are used for monitoring self-created articles, separate from the stub process. There is absolutely no need to conflate two completely separate monitoring tasks in this way, and doing so will only make the stub-sorting process immensely more difficult. The stub sorting process is intended to help editors find articles on specific topics - it is unconnected with other cleanup processes. Grutness...wha?  01:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete, unless there are plans for a Tv-cleanup-stub, or maybe a Tv-db-stub (for when a TV article needs to be speedily deleted and expanded). The premise of this stub is just plain silly. Let's be perfectly plain here, stub categories describe the subject, not the article, aside from the fact that the article is a stub. Instead, supplement Autobiography with Tv-stub. ~ JohnnyMrNinja  06:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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