Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/August/31

Europe-tram-stub

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any).  No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move to Euro-tram-stub

Seems to have been accidentally created recently at the wrong name (should be Euro-tram-stub) - nip it in the bud with a quick rename? Grutness...wha?  00:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as at least a redirect. Perhaps we can use this to revisit whether we really need to abbreviate Europe in stub templates to Euro? We currently have 69 stub templates and redirects that exist beginning with "Euro-" and 9 that begin "Europe-".  The other 8 "Europe-"s are all redirects.  6 of the "Euro-"s are redirects, five to other Euro's and one Euro-tram-stub with the comment in its history that indicates that the stub was there and then recently moved to Europe-tram-stub to try to comply with the Naming Guidelines which do after all call for avoiding abbreviations.  Granted Euro-'s been accepted for quite some time, but why should it?  Is saving two letters that important?  Call me a euro-skeptic, but I think at least, we should have Europe-*-stub redirects for all the Euro-*-stub templates, with an eye to reversing the redirection at a later date and then deleting the abbreviated versions. Caerwine Caer’s whines  03:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * (ec)Move to Euro-, for purposes of uniformity with precedent, keep redirect, for the sanity of people who haven't memorised our less-than-100%-consistent scheme for when we abbreviate, and when we don't. (At any desired speed.)  Alai 03:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, that would be me who moved it to "Europe"... After all our abbreviation avoidance lately, I thought that the full name would be useful.  I support reversing the redirect, if you think that "Euro" is more common/useful. ~ Amalas  rawr  =^_^=  13:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm good with either, but let's move them all, if we're going to move any. On reflection, "Euro-" does seem like an unnecessary exception to the general pattern (any other six letter names we abbreviate?), and possibly also an exception to the idea of using nouns in templates, which is one thing we've managed to be pretty consistent about.  (I realize 'Euro' isn't a adjective, but it's a derivational affix, which is the next most confusing thing.)  Alai 23:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Basically, I'm all for uniformity either way. I don't mind if they're all changed to Europe, just as long as there's some consistency one way or the other. An overall chnage (keeping the Euro-s as redirects) may well be the best solution. Grutness...wha?  23:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Whatever we do, it should be done consistently. Asia, Africa, the Caribbean, and Oceania are written in full, the Americas are abbreviated (NorthAm-, CentralAm-, and SouthAm-). But I wouldn't oppose an overall change to "Europe-". Valentinian T / C 20:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 'Move to its previous name of Euro-tram-stub. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 10:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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