Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/July/15

Goose-Stub

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The result of the debate was keep both goose and swan, delete Goose-Stub redirect

Looks like someone decided that - since we have Duck-stub as an alternative way of stubbing things in, we should have one for geese, too. Probably a reasonable idea, but certainly not with a capital S. Delete this, with the suggestion of recreating it as the correctly-named Goose-stub. Grutness...wha?  01:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Moved and cleaned up; delete redirect, per nom.  Alai 02:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Follow-up - there's also now a Swan-stub, which should be considered, too. A concern with both this and goose-stub is that I'm not certain these are taxonomically correct subdivisions of. And if they are, shouldn't we be using the Latin names for them, anyway? Grutness...wha?  03:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * With the exception of the Coscoroba Swan, whose article is not a stub, the swans are all in the genus Cygnus, and the true geese are in the subfamily Anserinae, altho there are a number of species called geese who are not in it. However, unless we start getting large numbers of stub articles about fossil birds or domesticated breeds, we'll never have any of these large enough to break out with a separate stub category, so we need only consider whether they are useful alternative names for Anseriformes-stub. Caerwine Caer’s whines  03:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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Taito-stub / Taito-videogame-stub

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The result of the debate was keep Taito-videogame-stub, delete Taito-stub

is looking quite a mess, with now four templates leading into it, despite it only having about 90 stubs. This one is more troublesome than the others, since it is ambiguously named (I assumed when I saw the name at Special:Newpages that it was like Ratu-stub, but for Samoan nobility, since Taito is a very high rank in Samoa. According to Taito - which is a disambiguoation page - it's also a place in Japan and a personal name in several countries. But no, it's another variant on a theme for Square Enix stubs. Delete, or at the very least rename. (As to Taito-videogame-stub, it was created during discussion so needs discussing alongside this - very very weak keep on that one). Grutness...wha?  01:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * RENAME to Template:Taito-videogame-stub. I do apologize for the bad naming (I was thinking of SNK-stub and Capcom-stub at the time). I read Stub and didn't think there was a need to propose it for creation as I was not creating a new category, just a template. Taito Corporation is a fully owned subsidiary of Square Enix, but these games are not released under the Square Enix brand. Therefore I feel it makes sense to have a Taito stub template that links to the Square Enix Stub category. Especially considering how many Taito-related stub articles there are (close to 80). The Square Enix stub category is underpopulated because WikiProject Square Enix maintains a high standard for their articles. This template will help bring these articles to their attention, as many Taito articles need it (see List of Taito games). JohnnyMrNinja 03:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I went through the "What links here" for Taito Corporation and added the template to stub articles that were directly Taito-related, and only games that had a pre-existing stub template or were marked as stubs by CVG. A few had no discussion pages but were obviously stub class (not Start class). In total, there are now around 115 Taito stubs. If this template is deleted, these pages would still be stubs. They would then need the Template:SquareEnix-stub, and that would probably be confusing to readers. JohnnyMrNinja 09:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Since nobody's responded, I went ahead and renamed it to Template:Taito-videogame-stub. JohnnyMrNinja 21:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * We REALLY REALLY need a section of this page saying "Don't move pages anything while discussion is in progress"! We now have both a stub and a redirect that need discussion. This process lasts a minimum of five days - saying you got no response in 18 hours is a ridiculously short time, especially since - for many of us - that included nine hours of sleep. I've now added the new name to this proposal, since it also needs discussing (though it is more likely to be a keeper, I'll admit). Grutness...wha?  01:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I certainly didn't think it was over, I guess I'm just used to AfD. There normally someone else would have commented by now. I just figured nobody was interested, and I'd make the template as keepable as possible (by renaming and changing the icon). Sorry again if that was a mistake. JohnnyMrNinja 04:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * S'alright. This page is quite a bit quieter than AFD. Sorry if I sounded mad. Grutness...wha?  01:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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