Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2008/January/29


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The result of the debate was rename

Propose renaming to, to fall in line with and. robwingfield «T•C» 23:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * rename per nom and precedent. Grutness...wha?  02:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we could speedy this (and spelling, punctuation, caps, etc issues) as 'blitheringly obvious', perhaps on the "after two days if there's been no objections" model of CFR speedies, if you'd like some process with that. Alai (talk) 17:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've thought that for a while - things like this should be speediable here. Should it have a separate section, like at the top of CFD? Grutness...wha?  00:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure I'd bother; more bookkeeping, and doesn't seem to be required on volume grounds.  "By acclaim" seems workable, though I'd certainly not be opposed to outlining what's "speediable in 48h" in the header.  Alai (talk) 05:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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US-section-radio-station-stub (templates only)

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The result of the debate was delete

Since we have state level templates or categories for all states that feed into the regional categories, one would expect these would see little use and indeed, they are unused, and therefore apparently unneeded. We're not yet at the point where deleting the regional categories and letting the State categories feed into would be comfortable so I'm not suggesting that we get rid of the corresponding categories yet. Caerwine Caer’s whines 02:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * US-midwest-radio-station-stub
 * US-northeast-radio-station-stub
 * US-south-radio-station-stub
 * US-west-radio-station-stub
 * Outright deletionmay confuse anyone who has used them in the past - perhaps just redirecting them to US-radio-station-stub, might be a better scheme (we've done similar in the past with things like SouthAm-geo-stub). Grutness...wha?  02:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * We should strive for some consistency of expectation as to whether these somewhat artificial subregional categories have a canonical template or not. I'd tend towards the view that we should be encouraging population of them via templates that have a 'natural' reason for existing, other than lumping/splitting size consideration, unless this is going to cause a problem via long precedent, heavy usage, or problems with multi-stubbing.  So, delete.  Alai (talk) 19:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Can I quote you on that when it comes to the practically-unused AfricaN-geo-stub, AfricaW-geo-stub and the like? :) Grutness...wha?  00:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * In principle, yes. But the latter is used on several, and replacing them would seem to require significant multi-ing.  I'd be rid of them if I could, though, since as often noted, the African regions have definitional issues, which become more acute with such templates than with the corresponding categories.  There's also the "legacy" issues, to which the best remedy is, don't create them in the first place, rather than having making, using for a while, deprecating, and then deleting them.  (This may require the creation of more upmerged templates in the first instance, however.)  Alai (talk) 05:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to support deleting both AfricaX-geo-stub templates and their associated categories. All told there are only about 10 articles using the regional templates and about 150 articles using those plus upmerged country templates, so it would hardly be a burden to scrap the continental subregions here. Caerwine Caer’s whines  06:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm waiting until the last few countries reach the magical 60 mark before nominating them - there are only about five that haven't yet, and if I get some time I'm going to be trying to increase Burundi's stub total soon. Grutness...wha?  01:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd be completely okay with deleting the templates but the regional categories are still useful. I'm working like crazy to create enough station articles to get as many US states their own stub category but it will be a while before that project will be completed. Even when I'm done there are some smaller US states and territories that won't hit the magic 60.  (Rhode Island topped out at 36, Delaware at 28, etc.) - Dravecky (talk) 11:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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Three Caribbean redirects

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The result of the debate was delete

Managed to stumble on these while I was looking for any other uncapitalized Sri Lanka stub templates (of which there are none). Not used, though the names were proposed when per country Caribbean templates were proposed and rejected back in the days before we did upmerged templates as much as we now do. Even then tho it was pointed out the problems they have with the naming guidelines. Delete Caerwine Caer’s whines 02:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * st-lucia-stub
 * st-vincent-stub
 * domrep-stub
 * Delete all of them per rejected proposal and NGs - especially the fairly horrible domrep-stub which, out of context, could mean just about anything. Grutness...wha?  02:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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Redirect Srilanka-stub

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The result of the debate was delete

As pointed out below, we have this redirect for SriLanka-stub that doesn't follow the naming guidelines. It was used on all of one stub article which I have already restubbed. Delete Caerwine Caer’s whines 02:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per precedent, especially given that it's so little used. Grutness...wha?  02:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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