Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2009/February/27

Ireland-old-mil-bio-stub

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The result of the debate was delete


 * I have replaced the few uses of it with Ireland-mil-bio-stub, please correct if/where I am wrong. Thanks - Nabla (talk) 14:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Unproposed and unnecessary duplicate of Ireland-mil-bio-stub which seems to attempt to split Irish military biographies by age (age of people, or by historical age?) Either way, this is something that isn't done, and if it were done it wouldn't be by such ambiguous terms as "old". Given that Ireland-mil-bio-stub is still so little-used that it is an upmerged template, there's no way on earth that a split of it - even by a more sensible way than this - would be appropriate. Delete. Grutness...wha?  00:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Keep but it depends on the philosophy and usage of Ireland-mil-bio-stub. If the latter is reserved for biographical articles on those who have served in the armed forces of the Irish Free State and the Irish Republic then there is no need for Ireland-old-mil-bio-stub and it can go.

If a specifically Irish stub is to be applied to any Irishman who has served in the British or other forces then Ireland-mil-bio-stub is inappropriate as it has the flag adopted in 1936 for a state created only in 1921. For that purpose I created a version with an older flag. I stumbled across the original stub attached to an article on a peer who served only in the forces of the United Kingdom and who lived in Northern Ireland, not the state whose flag the original stub bears. (In the end I just switched him to the Brtish military stub.)

Presumably the appropriate military stub depends on which army the man served in, not his national / sub-national identity. In that case any Irishman who distinguished himself in the service of King and country gets the British military stub (and any who disgraced himself serving the French gets the French one) and the new stub can be deleted without tears.

Howard Alexander (talk) 14:36, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Response - Ireland-mil-bio-stub is intended for use for Irish military biographies back to the days of Brian Boru and beyond. As with all such mil-bio-stubs, there is no historical date set. And you're right, the NI one should have used the UK stub - that's the very reason why we use the term "United Kingdom" not "British". Grutness...wha?  04:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete in favor of the broader Ireland-mil-bio-stub, with perhaps a change to Ireland-up.png as the image? Pegship (talk) 03:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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