Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2009/June/30

Hockey-stub (redirect)

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any).  No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was '''make similar to football-stub. -Mairi (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)'''

A redirect to icehockey-stub. Unfortunately, for most of the woprdld, hockey means field hockey (even the IOC calls this form of the sport simply "hockey"), and as such this template redirect is very ambiguous (something we tend to avoid with stub template names wherever possible. The redirect is used on a large number of articles, so will probably need a bot to depopulate it... I've retemplated a number of field hockey stubs that were marked with it (a clear indication of why it shouldn't exist). Delete. Grutness...wha?  07:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * comment Is there a field hockey stub type? I don't see one over on the stub types list (maybe I'm blind). I would have thought to see a general hockey stub type, with subtypes of field/ice/etc, but looking at the obvious "coded" sport example - football - I notice that soccer, rugby, AFL, grid iron etc all have their own type directly nested under the sports type... so I am a little confused as to what to do. The article that brought this about is Floor hockey, which is not (in my opinion) an ice hockey stub, but certainly not a field hockey stub either. It is - as far as I can figure - just a hockey stub. But if it is the only hockey stub, there shouldn't be a template for it... Metao (talk) 08:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * fieldhockey-stub is used for (field) hockey. As for floor hockey, the article clearly says that it's a variant of ice hockey, and as such, icehockey-stub is the most sensible stub type for it. As you say, it makes little sense to have a general hockey-stub if only one or two stubs would use it rather than falling into one of the other two types. Grutness...wha?  23:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - what would road/street hockey go under? Does it have its own? or would it then have to settle for Sports-stub? CaribDigita (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, street hockey isn't a stub. But yes, I imagine it would have to go under sports-stub... although, street hockey is also (technically) a variant of ice hockey... Metao (talk) 01:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think CaribDigita meant articles relating to Street Hockey rather than the article itself but yes it could be tagged Sport-stub or possibly ball-sports-stub.Waacstats (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this needs deleting, I had never heard of the term Field Hockey till I came to wikipedia, I always heard the two sports called hockey and Ice hockey. Waacstats (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I must admit that the same's true with me, despite both ice hockey and "field" hockey being popular locally. Grutness...wha?  01:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Not many know the difference ice hockey and field hockey. NoseNuggets (talk) 2:55 AM US EDT Jul 11 2009
 * You sure about that? I'd say that anyone who knows anything about either sport knows there are two separate sports. The problem is that different people refer to one or the other as "hockey" pure and simple (in North America it's ice hockey; elsewhere it's field hockey), and as such this template is confusing and ambiguous. Grutness...wha?  00:36, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Proposal. It is clearly out of place, but it clearly should exist. Lets make it the similar to Football-stub. Metao (talk) 02:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I could live with that. We do the same sort of thing with stub templates like China-geo-stub for the same reasons. Grutness...wha?  01:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Done! (for hockey, anyway). Do be so kind as to make sure I didn't stuff it up! Metao (talk) 10:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.