Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/July/18


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The result of the discussion was delete cat, redirect template

Please review the text at ball game. If we use the American English rendering, all of the current articles would need to be cleared from here, and, and  would need to be subcategorized here. But each of those sports can very well stand on their own under. Following the British English rendtion, we would need to move significantly more categories under here. Baseball, basketball, football would still qualify, but so would cricket, floorball, golf, handball, netball, etc.

Under either definition, the category would no longer be underpopulated, but it all seems like a weird classification for no good purpose. I vote for deleting this category altogether, and redirecting ball-sports-stub to sport-stub. Dawynn (talk) 12:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


 * If we vote to keep this category, then we need to consider properly populating it. In that case, baseball, basketball, cricket, football, etc. would be placed in this category instead of directly in .   See permcat .  Dawynn (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Support deletion - an alternative might be to make it a parent-only type, though even then the definition problems would be a concern. Grutness...wha?  00:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete for me too. I think all the sport categories you mention are better placed in . I think the template can stay but upmerged to . SeveroTC 07:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was rename

Propose to rename to to correct an error in Romanian orthography (see S-comma), and for consistency with other Mureș County-related categories. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:25, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Seems reasonable. The template should be proposed for renaming as well. Grutness...wha?  01:49, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
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ZagrebCounty-stub /

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The result of the discussion was upmerge for now - seems the best middle ground

Unproposed stub type. The template's reasonable, or would be if we were anywhere near the stage of splitting Croatian stubs by location (which we're not), but sadly this has a category which is less well formed and - more importantly - is unlikely to reach anywhere near threshold. only has some 30 non-geographical articles in it, many of them are well beyond stub length, and many others are about individual people (who are rarely stubbed by subnational division). Delete the category, first option delete the template, though upmerging it might be an alternative. Grutness...wha?  01:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I did not know, that should be proposed. The reason was that the article Naftalan, Croatia, had stub in the wrong category: Category:Zagreb stubs, and not where it belongs Category:Zagreb County stubs, according to Counties of Croatia. Naftalan is located in Ivanić-Grad in Zagreb County, and not under City of Zagreb (has a county status and jurisdiction). These are just a neighboring counties. Yes, I noticed there was only one non-geographical article in this County. What to do in such a case, simply delete it (wrong stub), or hope it will need in the future for some other objects (to make new stub, OK now I know, to propose new)? --Vhorvat (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Since there are so few stubs for Zagreb County, it should simply have been marked with Croatia-stub. Best thing would probably for the template and category to be deleted now - if there are a lot of stubs about Zagreb County in the future it can be proposed for re-creation. Grutness...wha?  04:41, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What is the minimum number of stubs in the category? I found only one more for Zagreb County, Komunalno poduzeće Zaprešić. I think that will occur in the near future some more stubs. The main reason to create a stub and category was that because of confusing similar names, there may be frequent errors. --Vhorvat (talk) 00:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The threshold is 60 existing stubs, though that would be reduced a little since there is a viable subcategory (the geography stubs) - so probably about 50 is probably what would be required. If the category's deleted now and there's some growth to the point where a category seems a reasonable idea, it can always be proposed, and chances are it would be approved. But note that it's existing stubs - simply saying "there may be more later" doesn't guarantee that they will actually get made! WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub rationales gives some reasons why 60 is used. Grutness...wha?  00:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I understand, thanks for the information. --Vhorvat (talk) 22:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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