Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/March/10

Cross-country skiing biography stubs

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The result of the discussion was rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Category:Finnish cross country skiing biography stubs to Category:Finnish cross-country skiing biography stubs
 * Category:Norwegian cross country skiing biography stubs to Category:Norwegian cross-country skiing biography stubs
 * Category:Russian cross country skiing biography stubs to Category:Russian cross-country skiing biography stubs


 * Category:Finnish cross country skiing biography stubs to Category:Finnish cross-country skiing biography stubs — C2C. Bring in line with other cross-country categories and articles. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Category:Norwegian cross country skiing biography stubs to Category:Norwegian cross-country skiing biography stubs — C2C. Bring in line with other cross-country categories and articles. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Category:Russian cross country skiing biography stubs to Category:Russian cross-country skiing biography stubs — C2C. Bring in line with other cross-country categories and articles. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose the above three. Stub categories should be discussed at WP:SFD. Armbrust  WrestleMania XXVII  Undertaker 19–0  23:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could make an exception in this case, since the change effectively is just a typo fix (C2A). -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:47, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd agree that we should just do this. I've never understood why stub categories aren't subject to the same speedy rename rules as "regular" categories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

To hyphenate "cross country", per Category:Cross-country skiing biography stubs. For future reference, I would like to solicit opinions on whether stub categories should be speedily renamed in cases, such as this one, where they clearly meet one or more of the speedy criteria. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Support renames. As far as speedying goes, in simple cases like this, it's almost certainly fine, as long as equivalent changes are also made to the canonical stub list. The main bugbear might be that there are some cases which would be speediable for permcats which might not be as clear-cut for stub cats. (e.g., the differing uses of demonyms with stub cats compared to permcats, in an attempt to walk a reasonable line between grammatical and non-cumbersome names - such as the US history books case you recently brought here). Things like hyphenation seem perfectly acceptable for speedying, though. Grutness...wha?  03:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That seems reasonable. Minor changes affecting spelling or punctuation (C2.A) can be processed through speedy renaming, with corresponding updates made to the stub list, and changes to words or their ordering (C2.B and C2.C) should be brought here for closer consideration. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
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Underpopulated scientist categories

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The result of the discussion was upmerge

Dawynn (talk) 13:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * . Currently only 1 article, supplied by Turkey-botanist-stub.  Turkey-scientist-stub would only add 19 artciles.  Propose upmerging the botanist template and deleting category.
 * . Currently only one article, supplied by USSR-botanist-stub.  There is no USSR-scientist-stub.  Propose upmerging template and deleting category.
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The result of the discussion was upmerge

I tried to populate this guy, but only found 29 stub articles. I believe the category was premature. Proposing deleting the category, double-upmerging the template to and. Dawynn (talk) 11:57, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to nominate a few other Algeria-related categories that were created prematurely:
 *  (17 P)
 *  (31 P)
 *  (5 P)
 *  (19 P)
 *  (29 P)
 * Propose upmerging all of these. Dawynn (talk) 16:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
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Redirected categories

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The result of the discussion was delete all

Also from the stub type sizes list. I question the helpfulness of redirect categories. I propose deleting all of the existing redirect categories: Dawynn (talk) 11:35, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


 * There's no point in soft redirects for stub categories, since they're always populated by templates. These can happily be deleted. Grutness...wha?  21:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree, there's really little or no use for redirects to template-populated maintenance categories. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:46, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete, use the Yugoslav one instead

Found with the March 9 Stub type sizes list. The template listed here actually loads to instead. Dawynn (talk) 11:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, this can be done speedy IMO (as I created it). Now superceded following the rename of the Yugo' cats.  Lugnuts  (talk) 13:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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