Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/64.30.201.109

User:64.30.201.109

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

BlueAzure (talk) 04:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

This account and ip address are part of an ongoing COI case at the Conflict of interest Noticeboard. Until involvement in the Conflict of interest case all of HollywoodFan1 edits had been on the same day and slightly after the edits made by 64.30.201.109. The times of the editing:
 * Evidence

November 7, 2007 November 8, 2007 November 27, 2007
 * 64.30.201.109: 22:45-22:52
 * HollywoodFan1: 23:21-23:29
 * 64.30.201.109: 21:06-21:10
 * HollywoodFan1: 21:38-21:42
 * 64.30.201.109: 07:01-07:09
 * HollywoodFan1: 07:44-08:20

On December 15, 2007 HollywoodFan1 moved a message that had been left on my user page to my talk page. The next day 64.30.201.109 edited the talk page changing a message SineBot added to the posting clarifying HollywoodFan1’s action.


 * Comments
 * User:BlueAzure first put me on a COI notice board under a complaint for MetaphorEnt along with a lot of other editors, and didn't notify me on my talk page.


 * User:EdJohnsonjoined the discussion and once other editors agreed there wasn't a conflict with the article I started. User:EdJohnson responded by putting on an Adf tag on the article I started without notifying me. Several editors thought the article was legit and helped to clean it up and removed the tag,


 * User:EdJohnson wrote that he wasn't satisfied then blamed me for using two accounts HollywoodFan1 and SJR2008. He then wrote "Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for the false alarm. EdJohnston" when I showed him his mistake.


 * Now User:BlueAzure put the sockpuppet tag on me.


 * Now User:EdJohnson is trying to get User:BlueAzure to put another Afd tag on the article I started, since his didn't work out.


 * I'm new to Wikipedia. I don't know what those numbers mean, they may be coming from my computer - I don't know. I'm not a computer tech. I made my first edits (very minor) before I had an account. Once I decided I would get more involved, I opened an account.  I have only written one article and made minor edits to a few more. I am being tag teamed (literally) by two editors. And I've tried to be civil, by asking them for help and for advice, but they just continue to WP:BITE.  I believe this sockpuppet thing is just another way for them to get rid of editors they don't like. If I am being a sockpuppet I don't know that I am.  I only have one account registered.

Any advice? Any help?HollywoodFan1 (talk) 09:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)HollywoodFan1 (talk) 10:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)HollywoodFan1 (talk) 10:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC))


 * Comment: The whole case only shows, that BlueAzure did not read Sock puppetry or did not understand it. Sockpuppetery is the use of two accounts by one editor. In this case only one account is involved. There are not many editors, who never edited on their IP address, because almost everyone sometimes forgets to log in. Even if Bad Faith should be assumed, an registered editor should have the same right as everyone else, to edit under his or her IP address. --Thw1309 (talk) 11:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: It seems possible that many of the editors named in the COI complaint at WP:COIN are actually the same person. (There is more circumstantial evidence in the original COIN posting by User:BlueAzure). It would be good to get a clear statement from HollywoodFan1 as to whether he has used multiple accounts at different times. Since a COI matter is involved, it might not be out of line to ask for a checkuser on all the editors named in the complaint. EdJohnston (talk) 14:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If this is the case, please make a new (correct) report, but this one is pure nonsense. --Thw1309 (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Quoted from above "I only have one account registered." That's clear. Yes, I might have made edits without realizing I didn't sign in.HollywoodFan1 (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * My question to you User:BlueAzure and You User:EdJohnson why you are using the COI board to make and Afd case, the sockpuppet board to make a COI case? You've made one COI case & reopened it. You've made one Afd case and you are asking for another one. And now I'm here on a sockpuppet charge.  In the real court system there is no double indemnity.  It looks to me like you're going to try everything and anything to get me off of wikipedia.  My question is why? HollywoodFan1 (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)HollywoodFan1 (talk) 18:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Not a case of sockpuppetry. You may take your discussion elsewhere. --EoL talk 23:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions