Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/70.108.119.24

User:70.108.119.24

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Luke4545 (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Evidence

I've attempted to have discussions with 70.108.119.24 on why its full-scale edits were unconstructive/unnecessary, and yet, it has seemingly ignored my pleads for discussion to take place BEFORE any actual full-scale edits are made. This whole situation began with 70.108.71.151. I reverted the initial edit.

Then, 70.108.118.4 made another similar edit that was reverted by Smartissexy (talk).

After that, 70.108.119.24 came in and made another identical edit, which was again reverted.


 * Comments

These types of back and forth edits have been going on for about a week. As I said previously, I've attempted to have discussions with 70.108.119.24 on why its full-scale edits were unconstructive/unnecessary, but it keeps making these edits before a conclusion has been reached in any form of discussion. I also requested page protection for the article, since it had a history of edit wars, and it seemed like another one was about to start again.

Anyway, I appreciate your time and effort in looking into this case. -- Luke4545 (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Question: How do we know that it is not a dynamic IP; i.e., one individual whose ISP assigns the IP from a pool each time they reboot their modem/router/computer?  69.140.152.55 (talk) 05:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

You must find it frustrating that this editor shows up with a different IP address each time. Nonetheless he does participate at Talk:Catherine Deneuve, in a manner which is at least somewhat coherent. I find your contribution to Talk not easy to quickly understand. Maybe you could make a brief summary of all the issues on Talk, in less than four sentences? Conceivably you might be able to persuade an admin to semi-protect the page, if you can show the situation is out of control. But this is not a classic sock puppet situation. You can search around for film-related WikiProjects and make a posting on their Talk page, to try to bring in some knowledgable editors to help with this. EdJohnston (talk) 18:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I apologize if my discussion on the article's talk page seems rather long, but I want to be as clear as possible, so there are no misunderstandings. Plus, the talk page may possibly be used for a future request for comment case if no resolution can be reached; thus, I want my points to be clear.


 * Also, as far as semi-protection is concerned, there was a historical context that I tried to convey to admins as to why the page should have been semi-protected, or even fully-protected, in my opinion. However, they decided not to protect the page.  There was a dispute a couple of months ago between me and another user, in the same Catherine Deneuve article, that was almost identical to this most recent situation.  Just like in the current ordeal, there were back and forth reversions, as I urged the user to please fully discuss the matter before attempting any full-scale edits.  The user may have also been engaging in sockpuppetry as well - a case was filed by an admin, but the results came back "inconclusive."  The administrators subsequently semi-protected, and for a short time fully-protected, the article, and thus, the user was finally forced to fully discuss the situation.  The user and I came to a quick and constructive resolution.  That's what I was hoping would happen in this particular situation, which is why I said a historical context should have been factored in to deciding whether or not to protect the article.


 * Anyway, I'm not trying to imply that the possible sockpuppets in this case may have been highly-abusive or anything, but I just thought I'd present the case anyway to see if any action needed to be taken. -- Luke4545 (talk) 19:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It's plainly obvious that these IP addresses are all the same person. I know from experience that my own IP address where I edit changes once every couple of weeks, and once the new IP address arrives, the old one does not return. This user has the same situation: when his contribs from one IP address end, contribs from another IP address. I think this is unintentional on his part: he just doesn't care to register an account, and his IP address changes without him noticing or caring. The edit summaries, in both style and content, leave little doubt that (1) this is the same person, and (2) he or she is making no effort to conceal this fact.
 * Conclusions

I haven't read the discussion on this page to see if there's been any violation. My first impression is that semi-protection, which would be a de facto block on this user, should not be done. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 01:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As Shalom has indicated, there is no evidence of abuse of multiple accounts, so I am closing the sockpuppet report. EdJohnston (talk) 01:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)