Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Alexander Mak

User:Alexander Mak

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


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--   Avg     23:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Alexander Mak and Alex Makedon were involved in editing Talk:Republic of Macedonia. Immediately after the first stopped, the second started. The diffs show the same editing pattern, lack of usage of the preview button and minor corrections to the initial text. Finally and most obviously, they both sign the same text. Alexander Mak has been previously blocked here, along with the IP 213.140.6.120. so the link between those two has already been established. This IP comes from Italy (Milan) and user Alex Makedon claims he has a professional level of Italian.
 * Evidence

Might be more, since these accounts are shortlived and seem to be quite experienced for a newbie. My guess is that Alex Makedon has been created to avoid the bad reputation of Alexander Mak.
 * Comments
 * Is this a case about an abusive sockpuppet? --EoL talk 00:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * According to WP:POINT, WP:DISRUPT, WP:UP, yes. I was recently involved in an ArbCom case about Macedonia and a big part of the discussions was about disruptive behaviour. You might say I'm a bit more sensitive to the issue since I'm also offended by the content of what this user claims, but let's concentrate on the technical part.--   Avg     01:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Alex Makedon once again showed disruptive behaviour by deleting my sockpuppet notice, labelling it "politically motivated defamation" and accusing me of harrassment and vandalism .--   Avg     16:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear AVG your behavior is harrasment, and im contacting Admins about your obsessin with me, you keep threatening me, contacting admins to get me blocked, even controling my IP to see where im posting from!!! You are really making a personal war out of this! Are you a Psyco or somthing!?

As for the puppet acusation, both of the accounts are mine. I deliberatly did not pick a totaly different name, Alexander Mak and Alex Makedon are almost the same. I created Alex Makedon to have a clean start. Alex Makedon


 * Thanks for proving my point. The only reason this user is reincarnating under different names is to repeat the same abusive and disruptive behaviour, since his only edits are in talk pages spamming external links and writing inflammatory comments and in talk pages insulting other users. --   Avg     20:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

You got something personal here mate... find one, just one place where i have insulted anyone... you on the other hand cant keep your eyes off me... i have just contacted an Admin about your behavior... and for the last time Wiki is not your personal Battlefield. Alex Makedon


 * If you want to have a clean start it would be better to start contributing in the encyclopaedia and stop using your new usernames for the very same reasons that got you banned before.--   Avg     22:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Dont talk about things you dont know, 1) you dont know why i got banned for 2) for your information Alexander Mak got banned for a posting in the City of Skopje article, wich in the end, turned right the way i changed it - and got banned for. So you cant say that i act as i did and if that is a right way to act or not... Alex Makedon

There is precedent for blocking a second account of a user who is trying to hide a bad history. The break between the two accounts was only two minutes. IP and A.Mak blocked 48 hours, Alexander Makedon indef. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 01:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions