Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/AndyCanada


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User:AndyCanada

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

Yankees76 19:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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 * Evidence

Between November 7, 2006 and November 13, 2006, a biological value table was mediated on the Talk:Soy protein page by admin Messedrocker, and the result was a table that was placed in the soy protein article.

A key argument for the non-inclusion of this table by the 67.150 IPs (AndyCanada) was the supposed "outdated" information the table was drawing from. See quote below take from the Talk:Soy protein page:

''Amusing. The table is also confusing. It is quite funny too. The studies the anon 24 has provided dates back over 50 years. Interesting. Oh by the way. Not only are the studies outdated the book is as well. Even more interesting is the updated book may have the updated BV. Hmmm. Updated 1997 Edition!!! We should go with the latest 1997 edition available not outdated studies and outdated books!''

and

''Also, above in the table claims the book copyrighted 1972 but the studies in the book date back to the 1940s? Don't forget there is a newer 1997 edition of the book.''

and

''If this is a joke, nice joke. The table is a strawman's arguement. The studies date back to the 1940s.''

The argument was refuted and table was placed in the article by the administator.

On March 4, a new editor's first edit was to remove the table. See diff. Since that time the user has claimed that the table is dubious and contains unreliable, outdated references.  and stated that I simply removed references that are over 50 years old and improved other sentences.

And again here, where the invididual again protests the table because of studies from the 40's - the same argument as AndyCanada (and his IP address) from November.: "The studies are in the 1940s and 50's. First, where did that PDF file come from. Did it come from an anon or an editor you can trust. Did someone make it up on their computor. Hint. I wonder when this guy will figure it out. I want to make headlines about this. Are fake studies in a PDF file made by a nut allowed on Wikipedia. Did you actually verifiy the text of that PDF file. Take a second look at the PDF file. Every time I click and look at the PDF file I am laughing. I can't stop laughing. This is a joke. This is beyond funny. I got a big smile on my face. Your move. Cheers"

On a smaller scale, even the user's User page is similar.
 * See
 * As well as one of the RFCU-proven socks *And then this edit here by AndyCanada:
 * And another sock

The "new" material submitted for inclusion in place of the table was also submitted  to another article by, another "new" editor who is restoring POV material first implemented by AndyCanada before being indef. blocked.

And lastly is the tone of writing an use of common words like "Hint" in certain situations.
 * See edit by AndyCanada using "hint"


 * And recent edit by Prolancet using it the same way.

I have searched numerous talk pages and user talk pages, and have not come across usage of the word "Hint" in this fashion by any other Wikipedia editors.

When reviewing, please note that AndyCanada is a confirmed sockpuppet of, established by CheckUser, and has been blocked indefinitely, and Messenger2010 is the puppet master of one or more abusive or block / ban-evading sock puppets. See Requests for checkuser/Case/Messenger2010 and Suspected sock puppets/Messenger2010

(Links: ; WP:SSP page on "Messenger2010"&ensp;confirmed sockssuspected socks. &#32;&mdash; Ben&ensp; TALK/HIST 22:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

IP is stale and has probably changed hands by now, both user accounts listed blocked as obvious socks of User:Messenger2010. Puppetmaster is already blocked indef. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions