Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/BoaTeeth


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User:BoaTeeth

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

Bob 20:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Report submission by:

User:BoaTeeth has been uploading various non-permissible images for use in the Bruce Hornsby (which I have been watching now due to the users edits), which have all been tagged by myself, User:Angr and User:Nv8200p. See here for the upload log. The user then stated at 02:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC) Talk:Bruce Hornsby the best of luck to others in finding images for upload for use on Bruce Hornsby and was the users last edit to this date. User:Snidleysnide then appeared at 10:42, 1 March 2007 and has uploaded 4 images with questionable status for use at Bruce Hornsby and his/her edits are confined to Bruce Hornsby with the first edit made by the user being a statement at Wikipedia talk:Copyrights/Can I use...  I thereby think that this user was created to Avoid(ing) scrutiny from other editors  as outlined at Sockpuppets.
 * Evidence

While I am not sure of the sockpupptering, but the user has expressed concern and has reached out for help concerning images, as evidenced at User talk:Moeron. I have advised the user as best I could and commented on their talk page that I would watch the images until they were confirmed through permission. If they weren't in a week, I was going to look into further steps. -- moe.RON   Let's talk  20:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments

I'm not a sock puppet, but I'm not an experienced image uploader. I had been watching the ongoing discussion on Bruce Hornsby and other musicians' pages regarding image uploading, and I contacted the owner and operator of http://www.bruuuce.com, a fan website for Hornsby. Please see my talk page for a discussion regarding my reasoning for tagging the images on the Hornsby page the way that they've been tagged. I've been in touch with User:Moeron regarding my image contributions ever since User:Moeron first made me aware that I had committed an error in image tagging. I'm waiting for an answer from someone more experienced than myself in terms of the tagging, then I will send copies of my request and Si Twining's confirmations to Wikipedia for review. I don't want to submit the request/confirmation for review until the images have been properly tagged. I do not know and am not in any way affiliated with User:BoaTeeth, and, in fact, from the talk page on the Bruce Hornsby article, I have the impression that User:BoaTeeth, after making a number of substantive additions to the text of the Bruce Hornsby article has ceased attempting to upload images. I do not know if this will continue to be the case, but based upon this assumption, I took it upon myself to try to add images to the article. I can understand, based upon the lengthy exchanges between User:Grcampbell and User:BoaTeeth, the cause for suspicion and for frustration, but I must also say that I am disappointed, having set up an account to attempt to upload images for the first time and having previously been an anonymous user of Wikipedia, that the community has not been more inviting and more assuming of good faith with my efforts. In disappointment, Snidleysnide 21:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Response to Accusation

For what it is worth, permissions have been sent to the m:OTRS system for all of the images that I have uploaded, further distancing my actions from those of any other inexperienced image uploaders, in this case User:BoaTeeth. Additional evidence of my good faith can be observed by my conversations seeking help from other, more experienced users, both on the Help Desk and from User:Cremepuff222. I'd appreciate the removal of the sock puppet tag from my user page. Snidleysnide 22:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Response to Accusation/2

Given the high level of protest surrounding the image uploads to the Bruce Hornsby article, I've also followed up upon my initial request at Wikipedia talk:Copyrights/Can I use..., corresponding on talk pages with User:Mecu. As a result of these correspondences, I've independently reconfirmed the use of the images as well as the copyright owner's approval of the tagging of the images (as released to Public Domain) and the copyright owner's approval of the phrasing of the "reason given" passage of the Public Domain tagging. Although, as I mentioned before, I am a relatively inexperienced image uploader, I have been a frequent editor of Wikipedia via anonymous IP address. The creation of my account, corresponding so closely to the uploading of images, IS due to the fact that I created this account EXPRESSLY to upload images (something that cannot be done from an anonymous IP address). I can understand the suspicion that this has caused; however, given the fact that, other than the initial mistagging (which was an honest mistake), I have striven to very completely, very ethically, and very politely document the uploading of these images, always seeking advice from more experienced editors, I do not appreciate being mislabelled as a sock puppet. The images have, as of now, been properly documented, and two separate notices have been sent to m:OTRS. (I have also improved the documentation for other images used in the Bruce Hornsby article). Whatever issues Bob has with BoaTeeth, or whatever issues Bob has with the presence of images in the Bruce Hornsby article, I would appreciate being left out of these continued personal disputes as they do not concern me. Snidleysnide 19:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Response to Accusation/3

I have no idea who User:Snidelysnide is. I have given up on uploading images to Bruce Hornsby because I am unable to find usable images. If User:Snidelysnide has been able to find images, that is great. I plan to continue monitoring the text of the article, as I have made a number of edits. BoaTeeth 22:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC) As of 13 March 2007, I have removed the sockpuppetry accusation from my user page due to the fact that 10 days have passed without Bob posting checkuser to the page. I would be happy to discuss the matter further with any users/administrators and encourage anyone interested in such dialogues to contact me via my talk page. Otherwise, it's best that we put the issue behind us and proceed with more productive editing. Snidleysnide 19:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Response to Evidence
 * Conclusions

Similar interests, but not conclusive. I hope everyone involved has gotten a better idea of the image copyright policy. Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)