Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Captain scarlet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

User:Captain scarlet

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

Adambro 13:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC) (Additional evidence: Andy Mabbett 14:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC))
 * Report submission by

Captain scarlet attempts to evade WP:3RR:
 * Evidence


 * Captain scarlet states that he will revert the changes to Sheffield Midland station 24 hours after his initial edit (diff).
 * Adambro reminds the user that doing so does not get round 3RR which says "Editors may still be blocked even if they have not made more than three edits in any given 24 hour period, if their behavior is clearly disruptive" (diff).
 * User:Angel1479, the suspected sock puppet of Captain scarlet, reverts the article (diff).
 * Previous evidence of the two accounts working in concert in October 2006; Angel1479#'s only other article-space edit.

User:Angel1479 has made only four edits. One of which was to request an unblock for the IP address they use after Captain scarlet was blocked for a previous 3RR violation. At this point, Angel1479 was tagged on their userpage as a suspect sock puppet by User:MRSC (evidence cited). This notice was then removed by Captain scarlet, who described it as "sockpuppetery exageration and local vandalism" (diff). Adambro 13:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments

See also User:Chilisauce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pigsonthewing (talk • contribs) 14:13, 5 April 2007


 * Let's start the festivities. Firstly, myself and my fiancée feel insulted that each of our account are considered to be sockpuppets of myself. My actions remain fidel to what I believe are guidelines and conventions (sorry, not rules). I removed the sockpuppetery accusations on my fiancée's page as I felt it was an insult to her individuality, she has not been soactive on the English Wikipedia but has contributed on the French in more substance. Angel was disapointed by the actions of four contributors who felt it necessary to revert me seperatly (I am not so lucky in my friends). It is also very poor show on Adambro's part who feels the need to refer me, request comment, acuse of puppetery everytime I accuse him of poor contributions, such as the inclusion of travel like information (note the specific wording chosen; travel like, not travelguide) which adds nothing to an article well enough written not to need such information added by a token link. There is no proof that my fiancée is nothing but a figure of my imagination and there is, unfortunately for me, nothing proving that she isn't... there is also no proof that Adambro, Jhamez, Pit-Yacker, Pigsonthewing, MRSc aren't sockpuppets of each other...


 * I was blocked for breach of 3RR several times before, each and everytime due to the dismissive actions of such individuals such as Adambro who do not accept any personnal opinion other their own. The reason Angel1479 has little contributions is that she does not believe Wikipedia is a viable project and she believe most authors contribute for the wrong reasons. I don't share her point of vue and continue to contribute more of less happily, sometimes confronted by individuals who use each and every tool to undermine efforts to make Wikipedia a richer collection of information, which referring me each and every five minutes does not make. 14:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I would like to inform Captain scarlet that I shall not be making further comment on this. There is nowhere to hide on Wikipedia, and as such other editors can judge me by my contributions. Just as they can assess the credibility of your argument by your contributions which is why I've brought this to the attention of other editors. Adambro 15:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Likewise, I have nothing to worry about as I tell you the truth. There is nothing I can hide that can confirm that this sockpuppet accused account is mine. since you won't be contributing to htis anymore, I encourage you to contribute to article rather than wasting people's time, Wikiadministrators, mine and yours with lies and accusations. This is a farce, a farce solely to get your way. I will be observing these proceedings but will refrain from contributing. Enjoy yourself and good weekend to you. I'll try and spend the rest of my birthday not wasting my time thinking about you. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 15:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Captain Scarlet seems to have above admitted that Angel1479 is his fiancée. Given that this user's attempts to edit have only occurred in the context of Captain Scarlet being blocked or being close to breaching 3RR, she would therefore fit the description of a meatpuppet, and should be treated in the same way as a sockpuppet and the lack of proof either way is irrelevant. Captain Scarlet's stated intention of reverting as soon as the 24hr period is up is also disruptive and in breach of the spirit of the 3RR. The Chillisauce case is less clear. JPD (talk) 17:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions


 * (Additional Comment)
 * The case for Chillisauce may be less clear, but some of the words used are unusual and occur in both user's writings. I refer here to the use of the word "fidel" which is quite rare and unusual in most people's writings. And yet, we see Chillisauce using it in the quote given above, and also Captain Scarlet uses the same word in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sheffield where he writes in one of his contributions: "As it stands the current article topic and name are the most fidel and accurate.". Not conclusive, but an indication that the original claim of sockpuppetry was perhaps justified.  DDStretch    (talk)  20:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Both Chilisauce and Angel1479 are pretty clear sock/meatpuppets, given typing patterns (as well as both having been hit by Captain scarlet's autoblock). Angel1479 already blocked indef, Chilisauce is also now blocked indef. Captain scarlet was already blocked again, 24 hours, for this incident. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)