Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Carribeanqueen

User:Carribeanqueen

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Admiral Norton (talk) 13:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Evidence


 * Compare Special:Contributions/Carribeanqueen and Special:Contributions/Littleredm&m. All of their contributions revolve around the Indiana Gregg page. Also, Littleredm&m was created in early May, but became active only today, two days after Carribeanqueen's activities ceased. This leads me to think Carribeanqueen uses sockpuppets to engage in a dispute.


 * Comments
 * I have added 82.9.58.47 to the list of suspected and recently active socks. The account "Littleredm&m" was created on May 19, 2007, a day after, the husband of Indiana Gregg, was blocked indefinitely for legal threats. These accounts most likely belong to him as he has continued editing the article also from IP addresses starting with 82.9.x.x . Prolog (talk) 14:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I would like to add here (in case thats OK!] the remarks from an editor that was mainly involved in the substantial page editing he had psoted on the article talk page. His post contains more diff link examples and seems to be helpfull for the determination of the validity of the SP allegations: I would like to add some additional points to the discussion: I first tried to engage Carribeanqueen on the talk page on 7/4 regarding her edits.  Rather than respond to the problems I pointed out, she wiped my comments from the talk page  (contrary to WP:TPG) and reverted to her previous version without explanation.  Since then, numerous other editors have tried, imperfectly, but I believe in good faith, to remove unsupported claims and clearly argumentative edits. Each time Carribeanqueen has wiped them and replaced her previous edits  without providing coherent justification on the talk page. It now appears that Carribeanqueen has resorted to suckpuppetry as Littleredm&m has taken over wiping others and restoring Carribeanqueen's improper edits using nearly identical tactics and patterns. Additionally, the circumstantial evidence regarding the account creation date for Littleredm&m posted by Prolog here is, while not conclusive, very persuasive that both accounts belong to the same user who was indefinitely banned after repeated inappropriate edits and legal threats regarding this article, and who claimed to be Indiana's husband, IanMorrow. Mooksas (talk) 06:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC) Wikieditor2008 (talk) 15:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

(Moved to proper location) hi, admiral norton suggested that i should contest 'sock puppetry' here. I'm not sure how I am meant to defend this though because the accusation has simply been made without any verification. I work in the media industry, but it doesn't mean that I pretend to be someone else. I have made entries in wikipedia in the past; however, I didn't remember my username, so, in May, I made a new user name. There has been a lot of conversation about this story between my colleagues and myself and I have made entries and used an older entry to work from because other editors were deleting the newer expansions that were made to the article. I find it unfair to be considered a 'sockpuppet'. and have made new contributions to the discussion whilst not knowing that I had been made an alleged 'sockpuppet'. In fact, I didn't know what this even meant or implied until tonight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleredm&m (talk • contribs) 22:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

So you say [below the line!] you were just a bit absend minded when you deleted the header of the section that accused you big and fat of being a sockpuppet? How believeable is that? (Well I'm not a decider..) Wikieditor2008 (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

the accused has for a second time now deliberately deleted the infos about the incident posted by wikipedian Prolog on the relevant article talkpage Wikieditor2008 (talk) 00:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I have added Wettendass2008 and Scotsman2008. Their contributions are also Indiana Gregg-only. Wettendass and Littleredm&m have already been blocked for Checkuser-confirmed sockpuppetteering by Swatjester. Admiral Norton (talk) 15:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note an emergency checkuser was conducted based on an OTRS ticket. The above two users were confirmed as socks. The checkuser did not confirm any other accounts. While that certainly does not rule out any abusive sockpuppeting by Carribeanqueen, it does mean that it is more likely a case of meatpuppeting than sockpuppeting. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  04:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

Per checkuser, the IP, Wettendass2008 and Littleredm&m all the same sockpuppet. Per OTRS, we know who that is, and all three have been indefinitely blocked for COI editing and disruption. No conclusions yet on the remaining accounts, perhaps the remainder of the SSP case will turn them up. I encourage a checkuser to be done on Carribeanqueen. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  04:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)