Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/ChuckCoke

User:ChuckCoke

 * Suspected sock puppeteer


 * Suspected sock puppets


 * Report submission by
 * Darrenhusted (talk) 08:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Evidence
 * They both sign with the tildes then name (ChuckCoke (talk) 02:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)ChuckCoke) and (Degenerate-Y (talk) 18:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Degenerate-Y). They both claim to have created Shamwow on their userpages. They both want to move the page Glen Jacobs to Kane, Chuck put a request in here and Degenerate-Y asked another user here. Chuck retired on 19th August, then on 26th August the first edit DY made was to remove the PROD from Shamwow, then when an AfD note was placed on Chuck's talk page  then DY went and commented at the AfD . It is clear they are one person, or at least two close friends with similar editing patterns.


 * Comments
 * Please remember to notify all accounts listed as possibly linked to the sock puppetry in question (instructions).
 * Okay, to clear this up, ChuckCoke IS my friend, he introduced me to Wikipedia. We both have all the same opinions on Kane, etc. When I said i made Shamwow!, I was at his house making it with him, so it wasn't really ALL me. ChuckCoke retired because he wasn't getting his way, but I then created an account to see what this is like, and he helped me do singutures and all. --Degenerate-Y (talk) 14:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)Degenerate-Y
 * So you made this version of the article together? I'm not sure whether this is allowed per WP:SOCK, if he actually typed some of it out himself, only one person should use a single account, two people cannot share the same account. Also see WP:ROOMMATE (if this applies). D.M.N. (talk) 14:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We didn't really SHARE the account, I was only with him on that account a few times, including the Shamwow!.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 17:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See User:ChuckCoke, I think it'll clear it up. "Just so everyone knows, Degenerate-Y is my friend, not a Sockpuppet. We live closely by each other, and a I introduced him to Wikipedia."
 * Conclusions

Ok Degenerate-Y is clearly lying. And we all know he is lying, and he knows that we know he is lying yet carries on, and after this he must know that we know that he knows that we know that he is lying. But so what?

It's silly to put a note on your userpage saying that you have retired. But lots of people have done it. And so he tried to save face by creating a new account and then got himself in deeper and deeper telling more and more porkies to cover his mistakes, but again so what? We have all done silly things at one time or another. The checkuser was refused for lack of evidence of abuse and quite rightly so. He hasn't done anything actually wrong now has he? So lets just leave him alone. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 20:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Violation of WP:SOCK. He has used two different accounts. He should only be permitted to use one account, so one or the other needs to get blocked. D.M.N. (talk) 21:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree. See my talk page. He's admitted both accounts are his. Only a violation if he abuses the socks by double voting, ban evasion etc. Which he hasn't done. Blocking one will set the autoblocker on the other account.  We do not block people who haven't done anything wrong. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not wanting to jump to conclusions, but... D.M.N. (talk) 21:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly looks suspicious but then again hasn't voted in the deletion debate, there is no block evasion, no revert warring, nothing that could be classed as abuse. I'm happy to watch for a bit. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Uhh.... Are you guys suspicous of me being Endwits? I don't what your talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 22:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes that's exactly what we suspect. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 22:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm not lying on this one, that guy is not me, i would have no need for ANOTHER account. He uses the edit summary, I hardly ever use it. He use Youtube as a source, I know Wikipedia doesn't accept Youtube as a source 99% of the time.--Degenerate-Y (talk) 22:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I've left a comment on Endwits talk page.--Degenerate-Y (talk) 22:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

If you guys seriously think that he/she is me, start a new case. This one's getting a little lengthy for a resovled case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 00:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No it's not resolved, and it's not that lengthy either. I've added Endwits to the top of this page. D.M.N. (talk) 07:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I also suspected Endwits, but didn't add it because I ran out of time yesterday. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Very well, but I'm not lying on this one, (s)he's not me.--Degenerate-Y (talk) 14:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If it's not you, I don't think the other user wishes to be harrassed for a response. D.M.N. (talk) 14:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't mean to harass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 15:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Why would you say sorry to us yet do nothing about you alarming message on Endwit's talk page? On the slim chance ( getting slimmer all the time IMO) that this is not your sock, I removed your message in order to prevent newbie biting. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 19:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And this is why i quit in the first place, "On the slim chance this is not your sock"???? This is totally not my sock! If it was my sock I would have more than 3 edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 23:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't get in a tizz about it. It really does not matter if you only had two accounts or if you had three. Everything i said earlier is still true. You have not abused socks, and haven't done anything wrong. There really is nothing to see here, and you do not need to try and convince us that Endwit is not you. Quite frankly you stating "it's not me" over and over will not convince anyone since you already said that about ChuckCoke! So try just letting the matter be. Like I said you haven't done anything actually wrong so far but I am a little concerned that you will end up causing disruption if you don't cool down about this. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 00:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Very well, I'll try keeping a cool head--Degenerate-Y (talk) 00:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Per Theresa, probably related, but, meh, who cares, they aren't being abused. I'm going to archive this now, as it seems to be doing more harm than good at this point. SQL Query me!  01:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)