Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Daloonik


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions. An IRC chat is not proof of sockpuppetry. If there is any further evidence of the complaint about sockpuppetry, I would more than likely want to hear about it on my talk page. Iola k ana • T  16:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Daloonik

 * Evidence


 * User Daloonik created the sock puppet User:Blank_nate in order to blank my Wikipedia user page after he was banned. He did this in June, and again this Month. - N. Harmon 17:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * User Daloonik also appears to have created the sock puppet User:Grindingteeth in order to nominate Grex logo image I uploaded for deletion. Daloonik is a known troll on the Grex conference system and was opposed to its logo being put on Wikipedia. This is despite the fact that Cyberspace Communications' Board of Directors granted Wikipedia permission to use it. - N. Harmon 17:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The following is an excerpt from Grex's party log. Party is a Unix program on Grex where users can chat to one another. If you wish to see the original log for yourself you will need an account on Grex. To do this, telnet to grex.cyberspace.org and login as "newuser" with no password. After creating an account, navigate to the file /var/party/log/party.log. The portion of the log I will post here starts at line #9354. Since the log will most likely be rotated in a few days to party.log.old, I have copied it to my web space:
 * Actually, that log you've posted on your web page only goes through August 27th and doesn't include the conversation you've excerpted below. Neil916 (Talk) 06:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

herasleftnut: where is krj and his corn update? naftee:   i'm a part-time troll, nate naftee:  do you think i'll ever stop ? herasleftnut: ha herasleftnut:  i figured out how to word this herasleftnut: without sound like I like a total homo nharmon: top post? nharmon: what is to top post? nharmon: grindingteeth, you'll never stop trolling. You enjoy it too much. sholmes: lunch time ! sholmes leaving (Aug 29 23:05) trig leaving (Aug 29 23:07) trig joining (Aug 29 23:07) naftee:   nate : when you reply to something leaving the previous text under your reply naftee:   like in an e-mail naftee:   haha naftee:   grindingteeth naftee:   did you like that userbox, nate ? naftee:   i didn't make it, though :( nharmon:  yeah  naftee:    the category is hilarious naftee:    dumb wikipedians naftee:    haha nharmon:  you're such a prick :) naftee:   aw geez naftee:   :) naftee:    but seriously naftee:    i've had about 20 accounts indef blocked on wikipedia nharmon:  hahahahaha nharmon:  not just Daloonik? naftee:    i'm trying to get back at this jerk MONGO, you see naftee:   no way man naftee:   but MONGO, you see, has his userpage semi protected naftee:    so i wanted to create an account like MONGO SUCKS naftee:    and then wait a few days, and post something to his page naftee:    but like, whenever i create an account along those lines, there's always somebody ready to toast my ass naftee:    it's uncanny naftee:    the longest i've had an account last is 16 mins naftee:    so i gave up on that line :( nharmon: rofl nharmon: Create an account called  "EatmeMongo" naftee:   some of the guys are funny, though nharmon: or naftee:    ok nharmon:  MongoEatsMe naftee:   watch naftee:   i'll do it naftee:    watch the logs bipolar joining (Aug 29 23:13) naftee:   03:12, 30 August 2006 MONGO eats me out (Talk | contribs) New user account naftee:   j naftee:    bipolar ! naftee:   ok sliew joining (Aug 29 23:13) naftee:   so in a few mins naftee:   that account'll be blocked indef naftee:   hi silew ! nharmon: heh sliew:   Hi all. naftee:   now, what i REALLY hate, dude. naftee:   REALLY hate naftee:   is when you put up an unblock request and that Pgk guy comes along, blanks the talk page and protects it naftee:    it's annoying ! naftee:   so once i blanked his talk page naftee:  but it got reverted in a few mins :( nharmon:  23:14, 29 August 2006 Freakofnurture (Talk | contribs) blocked "MONGO eats me out (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (o rly) nharmon:  hehe nharmon:  o rly naftee:    03:14, 30 August 2006 Freakofnurture (Talk | contribs) blocked "MONGO eats me out (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (o rly) naftee:    two minutes naftee:    heh naftee:    it's so screwed up, man naftee:    who spends their time deleting usernames :(

N. Harmon 00:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Comments

I have no clue what N. Harmon is talking about. I've never used Grex, and do not know who Daloonik is. Nathan's evidence seems rather slim indeed. Grindingteeth 01:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you (N. Harmon) could give us an idea why Daloonik started the blanking of your userpage, if you know? The only time I see your paths crossing is when you subst'ed the generic "welcome to Wikipedia" message on his talk page, other than the userpage vandalism you've already mentioned.  Crawling around through edit histories for several users makes me believe that there are several additional user accounts that may be involved (most have already been banned for various reasons), but I don't want to throw around names until I get a better picture of the relationship of all the parties here. You've mentioned the "Grex conference system".  Is this some type of off-wikipedia forum where your paths have crossed? Neil916 (Talk) 10:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I honestly do not recall the circumstances behind the original blanking of my userpage. I recall Daloonik told me that he would blank my userpage if I did something, or didn't do something. That was around the time of the second blanking. You will see our paths crossed when the Grex article was nominated for deletion. The discussion page for the nomination would show Daloonik has/had an interest with things related to Grex. If you have any more questions, let me know. Thank you! N. Harmon 00:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

A few points:   I have absolutely no connection to User:Grindingteeth, and I have no idea why User:Nharmon believes this to be true. The user naftee mentions above that he/she did not create the userbox put on User:Nharmon's page. I don't know why User:Nharmon is bringing Cyberspace Communications into this discussion, since it obviously has nothing to do with sockpuppetering on wikipedia. I also don't think he should be commenting on these people being trolls on other systems when he hasn't posted any proof of this being so. Indeed, in the log above, it is clear that User:Nharmon is laughing about another user's vandal edits to wikipedia. Is this a joke, Nharmon? Please refrain from posting any more sockpuppet templates on my userpage. Truthfully Yours, Blank nate 22:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC) 