Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Duty2love

User:Duty2love

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Rushmi 14:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence
 * 1) Duty2love comes out suddenly just to support statements made by Reneeholle.
 * 2) User was suspected for sockpuppet when first edit was made
 * 3) This user has edited only those pages where Reneeholle is involved

Duty2love user is created only to support contribution's done by Reneeholle


 * Comments

If they are same person, using sockpuppet only to support claim made by one ID to another, then both ID's should be blocked as per wikipedia policy. as in this case


 * RESPONSE

RESPONSE BY RENEEHOLLE: This case is so far from the truth that it's laughable. Please check writing styles for one and check the IP addresses for two and you'll see we are two completely different persons with absolutely no linkages or personal relations or even knowledge of the other. This case is plain harassment and bad faith by user:Rushmi, and I request he be sanctioned for it.

I do assume Duty2love is a member of the Sahaj Marg group (based on his/her posts) but there are over 300,000 members of the group, so it makes sense that at least one other member would find Wiki and be an editor. User:Rushmi claims Duty2love follows around my edits but I clicked on Duty2love's contribs, and it looks like he's edited only on Sahaj Marg and SRCM pages. There was one edit on IPSOS's page where he clarifies his status and the fact that he is not a sockpuppet. If you click on my contribs, you'll see that I've devoted an enormous amount of time to Wiki on many different sites, have been active in responding to RFCs for spiritual topics, and have been working in good faith as a neutral editor.

Now, on to the real problem. User:Rushmi is a single purpose account with the sole purpose of pushing a negative POV against a group called Sahaj Marg. He has engaged in tendentious and hostile editing toward me while "pretending" to be a brand, new naive user (he's amazingly facile with the templates, the policies, the procedures for a newbie).

For these and many other reasons I strongly believe he is a sockpuppet of User:Shashwat_pandey, who vanished after an RFC/user was filed against him (I was one of the persons who filed it so he holds great anger toward me). I was hesitant to "blow his cover" to see if he would ever engage in reasonable editing, but instead he continues to escalate the attacks toward me and has posted complete nonsense on the Sahaj Marg talk page, using up many editors time.

I will make a file for sockpuppetry on him and outline my case there. I request he be admonished for repeated harassment and frivolous claims. Thank you, Renee --Renee 19:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)  Update: Here is the sock report filed for Rushmi. Renee 00:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

This accusation is completely baseless and it is in direct response to my attempt to stop vandalism on Sahaj Marg discussion page. Here are my arguments against evidence posted by Rushmi. I am not sure geographically where Renee is from, but there's gotta be a way for Wikipedia to run tracert on mine and Renee's IP to make sure that we are from different regions and that should clear up this case for sure.
 * Response by Duty2Love
 * Counter Evidence
 * 1) Duty2love comes out suddenly just to support statements made by Reneeholle.
 * 2) This is absolutely false statement, please view my contributions since I joined and decide for your self if they are only to support Renee's statement. I know Renee from the discussions on Sahaj Marg or SRCM and I see her as a reasonable person, willing to weigh in an argument before making an opinion, also she has helped me with newbie tips.
 * 3) User was suspected for sockpuppet when first edit was made
 * 4) Yes this is true but look at my response my response and then IPSOS' response
 * 5) This user has edited only those pages where Reneeholle is involved
 * 6) Yes this is true but in no way an evidence for sock puppetry. This is true because I am a new user and Sahaj Marg and SRCM are the first articles those I have started with, but certainly I am interested in learning from and possibly contributing to other areas of my interest, e.g., Meditation, Spirituality, NLP, Information Extraction, Quantum Mechanics etc.

Now here are some of my observations about user Rushmi: And all of these with in just 19 days. I am not sure what can be done to prevent this misuse of a Wikipedia account/policies. I am looking forward to getting some help from other users on this. Thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duty2love (talk • contribs) 21:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Appeared on Sahaj Marg discussion page on Sept 1 and from the beginning started questioning everything -
 * 2) Started making edits without consensus, which was reverted by admin IPSOS -
 * 3) Accusing another new user of Sock puppetry, without any prior communication or verifications.

This isn't a very impressive report. The only evidence of similarity I see is starting talk page comments with "Dear ____" on its own line which is maybe enough to file a checkuser request. If Rushmi wants to file one, he can. Requests to "prove your innocence" are declined. The other thing I noticed is that Duty2love makes minor grammatical errors that suggest he/she is not a native English speaker. (I don't mean to be insulting in making that comment and I apologize if I come across that way.) Reneeholle doesn't make the same errors in the talk page posts I've seen. I don't think they're the same people.--Chaser - T 06:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Since I blocked Rushmi, I opened an RFCU here.--Chaser - T 08:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot Chaser!! Your judgment is correct, English is not my native language, so no need to apologize at all. Duty2love 17:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a super weak retaliatory suspected sock report. And to boot Duty2love has not engaged in any controversial or POV pushing editing patterns. So, super-duper weak report. And to double-boot, Duty2Love had 15 posts prior to this report? Super-duper-pooper-scooper-lame. Sethie 22:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This isn't helpful. If you have evidence or analysis to contribute, please do so.--Chaser - T 07:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

The checkuser was declined, as sometimes happens when the evidence is very weak. With little evidence connecting these two editors and some evidence indicating they are different people, I'm comfortable saying that Duty2love and Reneeholle are different people. Case closed.--Chaser - T 04:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Way to go Wikipedia for the right judgement, thanks a lot!! Duty2love 04:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)