Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Eep²

User:Eep²

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Piet Delport 12:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence


 * Eep² was indefinitely blocked on 2007-07-09, and last appealed on his talk page on 2007-08-02 (when it was protected from editing); Eeky started editing three days later, on 2007-08-05.
 * Eeky claims to be, but immediately picks up using non-trivial markup and edit summary jargon reminiscent of Eep²
 * ...including exactly the same user JavaScript as Eep²
 * Eep² and Eeky both profess an interest in video games, and Eeky asks on Talk:Complete graph about a 12-vertex complete graph—the same illustration Eep² exhibits on his 3D Game Comparison wiki and Absolute Relativity page.
 * Eeky's edits follow the same pattern and style as Eep², including:
 * linking common dictionary words
 * creating dictionary/search-index-like disambiguation pages and entries
 * Some of Eeky's edits seem to resume right where Eep² left off.


 * Comments

(Background on Eep²'s ban: request for comment · community sanction notice · admin incident notice)

As User talk:Eep² is protected, an admin might want to place the notification of this case there. —Piet Delport 2007-08-07 12:13


 * Nah, no point leaving a note on Eep2's talk page; in the unlikely event he's a different person than Eeky, he's probably stopped checking it anyway.


 * I was a new editor once, and I can assure you that Eeky is not behaving like a new editor. All the evidence presented above (I checked about 80% of the diffs) points to the bizarre and annoying editing style of Eep2, what with unnecessary links, Wiktionary links on disambig pages, and so forth.  The final allegation that Eeky has picked up where Eep2 left off - particularly for Put down, where nobody else has edited the page except those two accounts - confirms the match beyond a reasonable doubt. Shalom Hello 08:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Why are Wiktionary links on dab pages unusual? One has existed on Pickup for years and no one seems to have complained about it, yet when I did it once, suddenly it's not OK? Maybe Eep2's "paranoia" was justified... As for the other accusations, I came across Eep2's editing style and found a liking for it (and was checking out his/her edit history, making some refinements), which is why I adopted it. I found the javascript thingy while doing research on searching for redirects only. I may be new to Wikipedia but I'm not new to editing MediaWiki wikis so I don't appreciate the accusations. —Eeky 18:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Links to Wiktionary on a dab page is not unusual. It is seen as unavoidable, hence the inclusion of the wikt template.  However, other than that dictionary and/or search index style entries is contrary to the purpose of disambiguation pages and should be avoided.
 * There is a wide consensus that Eep's editing style was not making for a better encyclopedia. In particular his philosophy for dab pages.  So emulating Eeps style is not a good idea.  Taemyr 21:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * That you
 * came across Eep² by chance
 * studied his idiosyncratic editing style and decisions enough to "adopt" it to the letter
 * by unrelated chance, found and installed exactly the same "javascript thingy" as Eep²
 * ...all without having made a single Wikipedia edit before is quite unbelievable.
 * Furthermore,
 * Having edited other MediaWikis still does not explain your highly familiar use of Wikipedia-specific features and jargon.
 * Where does your matching interest in highly specific "odd things like [12-vertex] complete graphs" come from?
 * What led you to choose Eep²'s username, with one letter replaced?
 * Was it, again, chance that you started editing the same weekend that Eep² stopped?
 * —Piet Delport 2007-08-10 09:07


 * "Eep²" and "Eeky" are not different by just one letter. I don't adopting Eep's style "to the letter" but my style is similar, yes, as is our interests. Amazingly, it is possible and not all that uncommon for two people to have similar interests who do not know each other. Eep seem to have stopped editing when he or she was indefinitely banned so when I started editing is weeks after that. Are you police? —Eeky 20:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * This is not the place to argue whether ² is a letter or not.
 * Similar interests are common; near-identical interests and editing scope (video games+dictionary-like disambiguation pages) are less so.  Are you claiming that your interest in (12-vertex) complete graphs is independent?
 * You did not start editing weeks after Eep² stopped, but 3 days (2¾ days, to be exact): you can verify this through the contribution links above.  —Piet Delport 2007-08-11 11:10

I've run across Eep² in the past, and while it does look like this editor has had previous experience with Wikipedia, I don't see the same style of additions to disambiguations as Eep² made. I don't see any objectionable edits, actually, so if it is Eep², s/he may have reformed. If the editing become problematic in the future, I will be happy to review again, but my opinion at this time is that there is no problem here so no solution is needed. IPSOS (talk) 02:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The goal here is only to determine Eeky's identity, not decide about action.
 * I'm not sure how you don't see the similarity with Eep²'s edits, but in any case, they are objectionable and counter-indicated by the guidelines for the same reasons. —Piet Delport 2007-08-11 11:47


 * Conclusions


 * The evidence presented here strongly points to the conclusion that Eeky is a sock of Eep². Eeky is indef blocked. --Akhilleus (talk) 17:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)