Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Grant Chuggle

User:Grant Chuggle

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Daniel Case 05:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence

This case began with a flurry of sockpuppetry by Chuggle, starting roughly a month ago, that has led to his indefinite block and apparent departure from the project. I first blocked him for personal attacks and vandalism to the talk pages of users CelticGreen and IrishLass0128 after they had warned him about constantly adding unencylopedic information to articles on U.S. soap opera characters (such as names of miscarried or stillborn children, detailed character backgrounds that have since been retconned, and reverting their removals of same).

However, his ISP, Telkom SA, apparently uses dynamic IP, and he found fairly quickly that he could continue editing with a new session and just not logging on, as he more or less admitted. I had to block many socckpuppets of his, and the story can be pretty much be followed from there on User talk:Grant Chuggle. After the block was finally extended to indefinite by Yamla due to Grant's continued insistence that he would continue to post as long as he was able to, we thought we'd seen the end of it.

But recently IrishLass alerted me to Colaatje5, who similarly makes edits to soap opera pages against consensus, with the added wrinkle of marking all of them as minor, even in cases where they're clearly not. With no edit summaries, either. And to some of the same articles (Stefano DiMera, André DiMera) that I semi-protected when Chuggle's sockpuppetry began). Colaatje5 has also vandalized the user pages of CelticGreen (incidentally violating WP:OWN as well) and Flyer22, another soaps project editor who had warned him about this.

The name "Colaatje" sounds vaguely like Afrikaans to me, and given that and the editing pattern I share IrishLass's suspicions that Chuggle may have again found it difficult to stay away, but thought this time that he had figured out how to get away with it. Daniel Case 05:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

One of the additional habits Chuggle had that Colaajte5 also enjoys doing is removing hidden comments and tags directed to other editors in regards to adding or removing information within articles. A historical review of their edits will show the numerous times tags have been removed.IrishLass0128 14:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments

Though I completely grasp the concerns on this matter, as I stated on my talk page, I do not feel too much that Colaatje5 is Grant Chuggle. Not that this means without a doubt that Colaatje5 isn't Grant Chuggle, but I saw Colaatje5 around some time before I saw Grant Chuggle. Colaatje5 did not just appear in the aftermath of Grant Chuggle-gate. And while Grant Chuggle says that he is male (though he has been known to lie to editors, I cannot see why he would lie about that to us), I feel that Colaatje5 is probably female; won't go into specifics as to why I feel that is. Also, Grant Chuggle did not click minor for every single one of his edits. Colaatje5 does. Colaatje5 is also one of those types of Wikipedian editors who does not respond back...ever... Grant Chuggle does respond back, and will let you know what is on his mind. Colaatje5 would edit All My Children-related articles. I never saw Grant Chuggle do that. All of this leads me to believe that there is more reason to believe that Colaatje5 is not Grant Chuggle than to believe that Colaatje5 is Grant Chuggle. Flyer22 23:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments

I agree with Flyer222, there are too many differences. Plus Grant was blocked indef back in Sep, so I'm curious as to why this was filed.Rlevse 02:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions