Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Greg Jungwirth (2nd)

User:Greg Jungwirth

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

treelo talk 23:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

First signs of connected accounts came with a warning from one of Greg Jungwirth's (hereafter GJ) frequently used IP adresses to warn me that "the new friends I make may turn on me". According to the logs for User:Gregory E. Miller (hereafter GEM), this sockpuppet account was created one minute after this warning was made. Later that day, GEM begins to talk to User:Rlevse who had been the administrator who had dealt with his most recent sockpuppetry case asking for adoption in order to try and convince Rlvese that he was a newbie and also cement a trust between him and Rlevese due to him being likely to check on future sockpuppetry cases such as this. On April 29th, he added his name to WP:WikiProject Scouting/Members mentioning his location and interest area, both of which GJ happen to share.
 * Evidence

The account has not yet been used for vandalism but GJ has shown in the past the use of "good hand, bad hand" tactics to use one account for constructive purposes and using another anon account to vandalise the "good" account's pages and make them seem unconnected and as such cannot assume good faith to an account which seem closely related to GJ. On May 14, an anon "Colective" vandal (has previously blanked my talkpage twice) blanked GEM's talkpage and also left uncivil comments on Talk:Star Wars regarding him  though GJ has no reason to go after GEM besides that of tactical vandalism. In addition, GEM's username is similar to GJ's username which is one of GJ's more recent MOs after User:Crips r us, see User:The Legend of G. On May 17, continuously vandalised my talkpage using both IP address 72.200.176.36 and the account User:Colective killer (hereafter referred to as CK) in another attempt at good hand, bad hand tactics. During the period of what he/they termed an "edit war", it seems CK (the assumed good hand) was trying to invoke the three revert rule in regards to me trying to remove the vandalism left on my talkpage. The IP address was more akin to previous personalities that GJ has used in the past with User:Jungwirthwillkillallrocks and User:Rhode Island Hero and could be attributed to be CJ's actual or most prevalent personality.

Also listing IP addresses which have been known to be used by GJ since the last SSP case against him. See also Requests for checkuser/Case/Greg Jungwirth and Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Crips_r_us for RFCU cases, Suspected sock puppets/Rhode Island Hero and Suspected sock puppets/Colective follower for previous SSP cases.
 * RFCU case has reported that the GEM account is linked to GJ, check Requests for checkuser/Case/Greg Jungwirth. treelo  talk 09:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Treelo. I admit that you do seem to have evidence against me, but I assure you. I am not a sock puppet. The reason I left the smile on your page is because I saw you talking to Rlevse about me. So I thought you and I could get to know each other. Also, I am not sure why that guy vandalized my talk page, but I was arguing with him over the Tatooine image used on Star Wars. If I have done anything wrong then I am sorry, but I am trying to get the hang of editing wiki and be as good of an editor as Rlevse and I have no relations to the sockpuppet. For now, I need to go and try to staighten out Freddy vs. Jason so I wont be able to talk. Gregory E. Miller (talk) 00:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC))
 * Comments
 * Doesn't make sense, you never were arguing with the user in question but two well-known and trusted users. treelo  talk 16:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about the Star Wars page? Who are the "two well-known and trusted users"? Evaluate. Gregory E. Miller (talk) 18:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
 * Yes, the Star Wars talkpage. Both User:Stealth500 and User:TheHYPO with whom with you were discussing the image are of fairly good standing and neither seem to live near or within Rhode Island where the IP address originates. User:Jason Palpatine with whom you discussed with also about images is also of good standing and not capable of using that IP address. What I'm "evaluating" here is that you and the vandal which attacked your talkpage must be the same person as nothing connects them to you besides only that and the history of the vandal indicates they have no reason to attack you. treelo  talk 20:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point, but why would I attack my own page? If I were a vandal, what would I accomplish from damaging my own space? Gregory E. Miller (talk) 20:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
 * At a look at your vandal's page I see he has such a temper. Such as this . Now does that look like me? Gregory E. Miller (talk) 21:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
 * That's why I've had a request for checkuser also, if I've got the wrong Greg then you won't get tagged as a sockpuppet and allowed to carry on your happy ways. GJ vandalises other people's talkpages, usually his own sockpuppets, in order to create doubt and paranoia in my mind as to who he really is. Also, he gets to play the nice guy too to create reasonable doubt so I'm not convinced abut your innocence until the checkuser request states otherwise. treelo  talk 21:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Except for the 65x IP, these were all confirmed and blocked at RFCU. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 22:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Conclusions