Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Gundor Twintle Fluffy

User:Gundor Twintle Fluffy

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

MSJapan 19:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
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The background to this is that Gundor's userpage was MfDed by me for non-WP content and only 13 article edits out of 467 total. He streamlined his page and I withdrew the nom. He then vandalized my talk page here. He then signed a contrib he made a Dark Grevious with the Gundor name here, and after some quick hunting I found User:Dark Lord Dylan, whose page Gundor had edited, and had added a false MfD as Grievous here and then posted on the talk (with a reply at the same time) trying to pretend that it was me here and changed the timestamp here. After looking at the history, the only other user to edit Dylan's page was the IP I listed above, who also edited Gundor's user page, (supplying most of the content on both), as well as the talk on the same articles the others were on, and then posting "thanks for the support" and so forth, as if they were different users. It should be pretty clear from the IP's limited contribs as a whole what's going on, so I won't diff those edits, and just to look at the contrib overlap between the accounts. Contribs wioll also show that aside from warnings, only Gundor has edited Gundor's talk page, except for a replacement by the IP here.
 * Evidence


 * Comments

It looks complicated, but after superficial checking your diffs it seems likely that these accounts belong to the same person. However, I don't get in what way the user violated the Forbidden uses of sock puppets. Could you provide a few recent examples where, for example, one of the accounts was used to circumvent a block or to bias a discussion? Han-Kwang 20:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Apart from the fact that nothing he used the socks for was in the "permitted uses" section, he never signed a comment, so he was probably disregarded. I'd think the poor impersonation of me would be a good indicator of a policy violation, and the same user contributed to the same talks and bolstered himself on his own talk page with different accounts, which I think falls under a somewhat convoluted "show of support".  There's simply not much article material to work with - 500+ edits across the accounts, and maybe 15 edits to articles, along with the fact that it's multiple edits to the same sentence, and we seem to have a non-contributor who sockfarmed up a social group for himself on WP.  Theresa Knott blocked all of the accounts already, after I filed the SSP, so I'm guessing the contribs were clear to her; I filed the SSP to cover the bases. MSJapan 21:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that he was misbehaving in other ways that warrant a block. I just think it's really a boundary case for an SP violation. Anyway, case closed I guess? Han-Kwang 22:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

Pretty clearly sockpuppets, and spreading misbehavior over multiple accounts to conceal the fact it's the same person behind it is a violation of the sock policy. Two sock accounts (as well as the main) were blocked by Theresa Knott, I've blocked the third. The IP has not edited in quite some time and may have changed hands, so has not been blocked. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)