Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/HPJoker

User:HPJoker

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


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Socby19 (talk) 20:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * HPJoker was involved in an 'argument' with me back in August about keeping a particular section of a video game's corresponding article. I had once removed the section, and after I stopped caring, it got put back. Three weeks ago it was removed by Stormtracker94 (just for reference, no complaints against Storm) and the subsequent edit by the listed IP reinstated it. Yesterday, HP notifies me that the section is still there, and after I asked for an answer to why he did that (still looking for one as I type), he removes not only his advisement but my answer as well. After being notified, I had removed the section, and explained why on the talk page, to which it was removed by the IP. I also made a comment on another user's talk page, and the IP removed that as well. Both editing histories contain at least one edit to the page of User talk:Neutralhomer. The IP's edit can be found here and if you do a Ctrl+F search for 'thanks so much' on the most recent version (as of complaint) you'll see that it is now signed by HPJoker himself. HPJoker also claims he live in a hotel, so IP switching could occur from room to room from time to time. However, the earliest edits made by the IP were, in fact made to MLB 07 regarding the 'bugs' section. Also interesting of note is that most of the edits between the two have a near-correspondence in timestamps. Examples include several days apart between select edits for both as well as 04.10/11 for HP, and 4;16-36 for the IP both on November 3. (periods used in timestamps for colon problem reasons).

IP has several vandalism edits, some of which are removed when the intended function does not result.
 * Comments


 * You are accusing HPJoker of sockpuppetry with his own IP address. I'm not too familiar with the rules for this, but as far as I know, sockpuppetry doesn't involve *only you and your IP address*. However, I may be wrong there, but seriously. Socby and HP: please don't argue over this. It is one article. Socby wants it removed, and HP wants it to stay. I've told HP this, and I think it should stay, with a "trivia" template just under the header; that way, it can eventually be integrated into the article. HP just told me here that he lives in a hotel, and it could be anybody. Please don't accuse HP of sockpuppetry; I really don't think it is appropriate here.   jj137  ( Talk ) 23:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See this edit, where I ask HP about it here, and his response here. This makes sense; he lives in a hotel, it really could be anyone.   jj137  ( Talk ) 23:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A hotel he may or may not live in, we'd have to trace the IP to the actual building (good luck with that) to find out for sure. Also the Bonds edits may be him, as the same day, a World Series comment shows up in the sandbox, while his userpage says he is a Red Sox fan. Then the later Gary Sheffield edits make a reference to Bonds? Huh? It should also be noted that HPJoker makes a good number of edits to articles related to the Boston Red Sox. It's too late for arguing, he baited me, so he should have known better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Socby19 (talk • contribs)

Here, HPJoker has a conversation with himself, quite interesting--see the "sorry" thread. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 20:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * It's obvious to me the IP and he are the same. They were disruptive in that they both removed legit edits by Socby19, at least one of which was from an article talk page, which no one should ever do. There is also vandalism. To me, this is a threat. Most of this is incivility, disruption, and vandalism. I'm issuing warnings to HPJoker and the IP in this case. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 21:02, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think he had a conversation with himself there. From the looks of it, Neutralhomer just didn't put any of his replies on his own talk page.   jj137  ( Talk ) 23:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, see here.   jj137  ( Talk ) 23:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC)