Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/His excellency


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

User:His_excellency

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

Merzbow 21:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Report submission by:


 * Evidence


 * User was banned for 6 months on 2006-09-03 as a result of  this ArbCom case. Prior to July 2006 he edited as.
 * User was created on 2006-09-08, five days after the case closed. H.E. has a history of switching accounts, but not using two accounts at the same time; he switched from  to  in June 2006 after a long block, so a switch to  would be in character.
 * Shams immediately began editing the same handful of articles that were H.E.s favorite haunts, sticking mostly to the talk pages for now. He wasn't that active until about a week ago. (For the record, H.E. still has almost three months left on his ban.)
 * Some of the articles I'm talking about are Criticism of Islam (and its subarticles), Dhimmi, Council on American-Islamic Relations, and WikiProject_Islam and its subpages. A large majority of Shams' edits were to these articles, and a large majority of H.E.'s edits were to the same articles.
 * For evidence, please see Shams' relatively short user contributions list: . Compare this to H.E.'s editing. Here is a page of H.E.'s editing history that clearly shows his pattern of edits to the first three articles listed above: (for Main),  (for Talk). And here is a page showing his pattern of edits to the Islam WikiProject:.
 * Shams edits with the same POV as H.E. did, to counter suspected anti-Islamic bias, rightly or wrongly. His use of language is very similar. His edit summaries are verbose in the same way H.E.'s were, and his talk page posts are sometimes uncivil and sometimes make accusations of anti-Islamic bias, as H.E. did.
 * Some typical edits from Shams2006:, , , ,.
 * Some typical edits from H.E.:, , ,.
 * And here is a Shams2006 post harping on Fox News - - Fox News is one of H.E.'s favorite bete noires, shown by his substantial edits to Fox News Channel and its talk page: . A representative H.E. post about Fox News (compared to the Shams post above):.

I think the timing of Shams2006's creation (5 days after H.E. was officially banned by ArbCom) and the fact he immediately began editing like an experienced user would, in the same places as H.E. edited, with similar looking and sounding posts, make this case relatively clear-cut. I request that Shams2006 be indef banned as a sockpuppet of a banned user. - Merzbow 21:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comments

Thanks for that nice sticker on my user page. His Excellency has a very interesting user page which I saw before. I think he makes a good case and I saw his postings. I saw his page while observing some articles here, but I am not him. If your big case against me is that I and him both think Fox News is stupid and biased, its a weak case. Many people feel that same way about Fox News which is one of the highest ranking news channels popular for its pro-Republican bias. Almost every Muslim in America (and many who are abroad)thinks Fox News is pushing a crusade against Arabs and Muslims through misinformation. Im just outspoken, thats all. If this person and I feel the same way on the same issues we are the same person? Ridiculous. Using this method if you search enough you can "prove" I am many other people too. Your user page says you eat cheese. I eat cheese too! That must make me Merzbow too then. I edited rarely before using no account which is possible on Wikipedia, and I decided to make an account to keep track of things.I dont know what is so complicated about editing that you make a big deal that I edit like an experienced user. It just takes a few minutes to learn how to edit. Anyway, this is very amusing. Shams2006 02:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * If you're not him, you're doing the most convincing imitation of him I've seen since he was banned. You came out of the blue 5 days after the ArbCom case closed and landed right back on Dhimmi, making lengthy talk page posts that show a familiarity with the subject and making the same accusations of ignorance and anti-Islamic bias that H.E. did. Then on CoI you made a post talking about a section H.E. specifically edit-warred over. Now in the past few weeks you show up again out of the blue with an edit to CAIR citing an obscure Wiki policy and proceed to cut a wide swath through the Islam WikiProject (another favorite haunt of H.E.), nominating a sub-project for deletion, and sprinkling many of your posts with pre-emptive and uncivil accusations of a nefarious anti-Muslim conspiracy. (Similar to the accusations made by H.E. in his nomination of Dhimmi for deletion, which was also defeated.)


 * Furthermore, the way you talk, the length of your posts, and your (superior) grasp of English is exactly like H.E.'s and unlike anyone else on these articles with a similar POV. If you can point to the previous anonymous edits to these articles you made before you had an account, that would help greatly in your defense. But I don't believe I can recall any like H.E.'s and yours, and I've been following these articles for a while. - Merzbow 02:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Well I am sorry people with similar POVs to mine dont have a grasp of English. I'll have find them and talk to them about upping their command of the language. For the time being I don't feel I need to defend myself (I didnt break any rules) and so I'm not inclined to do anything but be amused by all this. Shams2006 05:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I have blocked Shams2006 and posted on WP:ANI for review. Tom Harrison Talk 18:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * Case closed. // I c e d K o l a  17:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)