Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Jason Gastrich

User:Jason Gastrich

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Nascentatheist 16:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence


 * Originally posted 20 August:

In addition to some of the edit history, , , , , which is indicative of a veteran Wikipedia editor:
 * Insisted on inclusion of known banned user domain site . One of the reasons JG was banned was due to his constant inclusion of self-promoting web sites into articles and discussions.  The ban has since seen a number of editors and administrators who remove JG links as soon as they are discovered, as a consequence of the ban, a bot that automatically prevents known Gastrich-owned domains from being used as links in articles, and the creation, by  Jason Gastrich, of numerous sock puppets on frequent occasions   so that the links are surreptitiously inserted into articles at Wikipedia.
 * Insisted on inclusion of the link because it is "pertinent" for "obvious reasons," but is not inclined to provide those reasons, in part due of a conveniently sudden lack of time, after which there is apparently plenty of time to post a number of substanceless edits, mostly about sports figures and celebrities, including a number of San Diego Padres , , ,.
 * Coincidental appearance of Uncle Davey into the discussion after a 4-1/2 month absence, and, except for a couple of token edits, appearing only to make accusations of another user, ,,, even to the point of declaring that he didn't care about the subject under discussion ("I could care less about American High Schools, it really is remote from my experience of the world").   Uncle Davey has a history of appearing in discussions about  Jason Gastrich when called, and also has a history of accusing others of sock-puppetry as a means of diverting attention from the topic under discussion (references available on request, as most of them are from off-wiki exchanges).
 * After the appearance of Uncle Davey,  Creashin declares to an administrator that yours truly "seems" to be "somewhat of a stalker", another frequent accusation made by both  Jason Gastrich and  Uncle Davey when their behavior is exposed and challenged.
 * These comments and this edit, categorizing a celebrity as an atheist. JG was known for his habit of going ensuring that known and suspected celebrity atheists were cited and tagged as such in Wikipedia (for example, this edit).
 * In addition to the categorization of Dave Foley as an atheist, Creashin used the celebatheists.org site which, coincidentally, banned user  Jason Gastrich references in his most recent "devotional."  - Nascentatheist 10:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Additional evidence and comments (26 August): Most of the evidence provided follows a clear pattern of behavior demonstrated by  Jason Gastrich in Wikipedia and in other venues, and by observation of Jason's comments, style of writing, and the behavior exhibited in sock puppets.  It is significant that these patterns have been mirrored by  Creashin.  Following the posting of my evidence, there have been attempts to influence others without presenting any refuting evidence, mitigation, or the use of Wikipedia dispute resolution    .  Creashin was advised to use WP:DISPUTE  and to suggest this process for reporting sock puppets, and it is characteristic that he availed himself of neither of these options.  Instead, in actions also characteristic of  Jason Gastrich,  Creashin deleted the sock-puppet notice from Wikipedia user page  and removed my commentary from the talk page, as well as "old posting" that he referred to as "purning," but that he almost certainly meant as "pruning" .  This "pruning" of earlier conversation from talk pages is characteristic of  Jason Gastrich, especially if the commentary is incriminating in some way    .  Creashin has also claimed that my postings are "out of control" (see previous references) and has claimed that I am harassing him when the truth is that I had actually nothing further to say on the matter, wishing to leave it to site administration, and only responded when  Creashin responded to me.   Creashin represents this as attacking, bullying, and harassment    , representing that this entire affair is over a single edit at the Kearny High School page, which resulted in a minor dispute from which I withdrew quite some time ago .  Claims of harassment, bullying, and belittlement are also common to  Jason Gastrich and previously established or suspected sock puppets and this wouldn't be the first of Jason's sock puppets that's flown under the radar for a while , though the community seems to be more aware of them since his banning and reactions tend to be more rapid.


 * As before, it is my intent to leave the above as my position on the matter and allow site administration to decide what action, if any, to take. If the patterns of previous behavior persist, we may expect  Uncle Davey to complain that I am a sock puppet of someone else  in an effort to justify  Jason Gastrich's behaviors.   Uncle Davey has tried to justify these behaviors in the past (specifically, Jason's habit of typosquatting ).  He has blamed Jason's banning from Wikipedia not on Jason, but on others  .  He appears to be currently involved in a fairly surreptitious attempt to get Jason's banned domains restored as allowable as Wikipedia references .   Creashin may also continue to claim that he is being bullied, harassed, and belittled.  These tactics are intended to distract us from the discussion at hand.  For the record, I am not a sock puppet of another user, that other user was not permanently banned from Wikipedia and, in any case, that would be a separate issue.  My previous comments on the issue were, in my view, sufficient, and I did not intend for it to extend beyond my original posting, in part, because I was not aware of this additional mechanism and in part because I wasn't really that interested in pursuing it further.  At this point, I remain ambivalent to further pursuit of the matter, preferring to leave it to site administration.  That concludes my statements and evidence.  - Nascentatheist 16:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Comments


 * Conclusions
 * Seems pretty clear. User:Creashin is indef blocked as a ban-evading sockpuppet. This will be noted at Requests for arbitration/Jason Gastrich. User:Usenetpostsdotcom appears to be acting as a meatpuppet, but at present this doesn't seem disruptive enough to justify blocking. --Akhilleus (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)