Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Jonawiki


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

User:Jonawiki

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer

(adding ip used to edit this report) Nardman1 10:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Suspected sockpuppets

Roguegeek (talk) 23:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Report submission by


 * Evidence
 * Both Jonawiki and Magonaritus accounts were created within a day apart. 14:21, August 13, 2006 compared to 14:52, August 14, 2006.
 * 66.208.54.226 contributions started at 10:40, March 13, 2006 which is definitely close to the same time as the users above.
 * Both accounts and the anonymous user edit the same articles at generally the same time with an emphasis placed on the Monarchy in Canada, Star Wars Galaxies, and O RLY? articles. Jonawiki contributions vs Magonaritus contributions.
 * After the Magonaritus account was banned for breaking the 3RR, the Jonawiki account became very active on the Star Wars Galaxies page where the 3RR violation took place.
 * Both have the same disruptive behavior and the same incorrect understandings of certain policies.
 * Both support each other fully in every talk discussion at the very same times.
 * Both are logged in and off at generally the same time.


 * Both account have the same IP as 66.208.54.226.
 * contributed to:
 * Upper Canada College
 * Talk:Upper Canada College
 * O RLY
 * Talk:Elephant
 * Where IP 66.208.54.226 modifies edit ‡* by User:Jonawiki wherein he admits to having made edits (here, here, and here) at Talk:Upper Canada College as IP 66.208.54.226
 * where IP 66.208.54.226 modifies signature to User:Jonawiki
 * IP 66.208.54.226 is User:Jonawiki


 * contributed to:
 * Upper Canada College
 * Talk:Upper Canada College
 * O RLY
 * Talk:O RLY
 * Talk:Elephant
 * Harvard University
 * Talk:Star Wars Galaxies
 * Where User:Magonaritus makes edit regarding Harvard College alumnus
 * User:Magonaritus' edit history matches IP 66.208.54.226
 * User:Magonaritus is IP 66.208.54.226


 * contributed to:
 * Upper Canada College
 * Talk:Upper Canada College
 * Harvard College
 * Talk:Star Wars Galaxies
 * ‡* Where User:Jonawiki admits having made edits at Talk:Upper Canada College (here, here, here, and here) as IP 66.208.54.226
 * Where User:Jonawiki makes edits on alumni of Harvard College (futher here, here, andhere)
 * User:Jonawiki is IP 66.208.54.226

Also:
 * Both User:Jonawiki and User:Magonaritus have never been logged on at the same time, and each always supports the opinions and moves of the other at:
 * Upper Canada College and Talk:Upper Canada College.
 * User:Jonawiki's edit (and revert here, here, here, here, here, andhere)
 * User:Magonaritus' revert back to Jonawiki's edit on the same day (and then revert here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here
 * Star Wars Galaxies and Talk:Star Wars Galaxies
 * User:Jonawiki's revert of his contributions
 * User:Magonaritus' revert to restore his and User:Jonawiki's contributions
 * User:Magonaritus' revert to restore User:Jonawiki's contributions; same revert by User:Jonawiki here and here; and same by User:Magonaritus again here
 * User:Magonaritus' defence of User:Jonawiki's work
 * Where both are supporting each other in an RfC

Also:
 * Each has only ever edited in the same periods:
 * User:Magonaritus between 14 August to 1 September 2006; 19 December 2006; 27 February to 4 March 2007; 14 March to present
 * User:Jonawiki between 13 August to 25 August 2006; 18 December 2006; 22 February to 7 March 2007; 8 March to present
 * IP 66.208.54.226 between 17 August to 1 September 2006, 23 February to 7 March 2007

Also:
 * Accounts created one day apart: Jonawiki 13 August 2006, Magonaritus 14 August 2006.

Also:
 * If you were accused of sock puppetry and were told so here, here, and here, I would assume you would sign in and at least start to respond to the report presented here. The three users in questions have not signed in to make any edits since around March 15. Special:Contributions/Jonawiki Special:Contributions/Magonaritus Special:Contributions/66.208.54.226 Seems like a strange time to be silent and even more of a coincident for it to happen at the very same time. Roguegeek (talk) 16:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * has supported Jonawiki in an RfC at Talk:Monarchy in Canada, restores Jonawiki's edits at Monarchy in Canada, and uses similar criticisms as Jonawiki does at Talk:Star Wars Galaxies (ie. "This article reads like an advertising brochure).


 * Comments


 * It seems as though other users have been compiling a far greater amount of evidence against Jonawiki/Magonaritus even before I reported this as seen on this user page. I have added this information to the evidence section above. Roguegeek (talk) 00:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This user/these users have all-together violated WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, WP:AGF, WP:CIV, WP:NPA, WP:NLT, WP:NOT, WP:VAND, WP:POINT, and, of course, WP:SOCK, leading to edit wars and the pages being locked. --G2bambino 14:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not so sure the previous discussion pertains to the subjects of this report. For clarification, this is a report for User:Jonawiki, User:Magonaritus, and User:66.208.54.226. It would be much appreciated if we could stay on the subject. This being the case, I have removed comments that do not involve them for this report (see this diff). I would suggest making a separate report for other users if they are in question, and, at least for this report, please keep this report's subjects clear. I'm not aware of any policy or guideline that doesn't permit me from doing this, but if I did do something in error, please accept my apologies in advance. I'm only trying to keep the report on subject of the three users I have originally reported. Thanks. Roguegeek (talk) 21:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Can you explain how Gbambino going on the record to state that he does NOT suspect Jonawiki and Magonaritus to be sockpuppets does not relate to the inquiry into whether or not Jonawikui and Magonaritus are sockpuppets? Before this matter is further escalated, I think the record would benefit from some kind of explanation for this unilateral behaviour from Roguegeek.Blunders of the third kind
 * I strongly suspect Jonawiki and Magonaritus to be sock puppets. I mildly suspect(ed) WormwoodJagger.  I do not feel you are a sock puppet.  I hope that's clear now. --G2bambino 18:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering the amount of evidence G2bambino has collected and brought here, it appears he strongly agrees Jonawiki, Magonaritus, and 66.208.54.226 are the same user. Roguegeek (talk) 20:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This is a quote: "I never really believed Wormwood and Blunders to be socks of each other, or Jonawiki or Magonaritus for that matter".  I must say I'm somewhat disturbed by all this.  74.110.212.198 21:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's just poor wording on my part. I never believed WormwoodJagger and Blunders to be socks of Jonawiki or Magonaritus.  I do, however, believe Jonawiki and Magonaritus are sock puppets. --G2bambino 21:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That "quote" hardly matters without a diff (especially coming from an anonymous IP) and even if you could find one, it doesn't take away from evidence I have collected in this report which I have submitted. G2bambino isn't the user in question here and I thought the comments section in this was to debate the evidence of the report. I haven't seen discussion yet that disproves anything I've presented. Roguegeek (talk) 21:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The anon IP is User:WormwoodJagger. --G2bambino 21:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You aren't understanding the quote. He was saying that he doesn't believe that Wormwood and Blunders are socks of each other, nor does he believe they are socks of Jonawiki or Magonaritus. He did not say he didn't believe Jonawiki and Magonaritus were socks. IrishGuy talk 22:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sigh.... I'm not sure I get exactly what's going on here. Why am I being accused of being a sock puppet now? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.110.212.198 (talk • contribs).
 * All of these comments on something that has nothing to do with the evidence presented. As far as I can see, I don't think there's anything that disproves the sock puppetry between Jonawiki, Magonaritus, and 66.208.54.226 as reported. Does anyone have anything constructive to add that deals with the actual report? If not, I would suggest moving this separate discussion to a separate area. Roguegeek (talk) 03:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You have to wonder why the user accused of sock puppetry hasn't offered any feedback, but all of a sudden we have a new anonymous IP in the form of Contributions/12.20.13.2 who has never made a single edit on Wikipedia before this report was produced, come out and defend the reported users. It's also a coincidence that they discuss in the same uncivil form as the user reported. I find it ironic how quick they are to point out how everyone has broken this policy and that policy, yet they do it in a manner that is clearly uncivil. Just a thought I guess. Roguegeek (talk) 21:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am neither Magonaritus nor Jonawiki. Maybe now you'll accuse me of being Blunders or Wormwoodjagger? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.20.13.2 (talk • contribs).

Obvious sockpuppetry per WP:DUCK. Jonawiki et. al., consider yourself cautioned to edit productively. Try mentorship to get a better feel for how we handle things here. Any editor who reads this is welcome to follow up at my user talk page if problems continue and I will handle the request using sysop tools if necessary. Durova Charge! 01:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions