Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Justice all the way

User:Justice all the way

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Pigman ☿ 02:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

This started on Dennis Oliver when I mistakenly Speedy Deleted it with a G4 rationale when it hadn't gone through AfD. (It had been speedied once before). User:Thatcher restored it due to my mistake. Examining the article, I decided to AfD it Articles for deletion/Dennis Oliver. User:Justice all the way voiced a keep opinion which led me to the intersection between the contribs of Justice... and User:Ralicia. Here I noted that User:Aarktica expressed an opinion that Ralicia was a surrogate of Justice. Since the Ralicia account coincidentally showed up first directly after this discussion on the Editorial Assistance board. User:Pampita also shows a remarkable similarity to Ralicia's userpage in choice of wording for her Userpage.
 * Evidence

Now most of this is old news from Spring 2007 centering mostly around the Rodolfo Valentin article and a bit to related articles. Technically, so far, there has been no egregious violation of sock policy; multiple !voting in AfDs for example. The use of various socks to make it appear that a more diverse group of people are acting independently though, that is a problem. A little web sleuthing did turn up Rodolfo Valentine and Dennis Oliver together on the same site here and here. Both articles were submitted to the site by "JMP Productions" and contain text which has been in the WP articles at one time or another. Here Justice apparently signs with a real world name with the initials JMP. There have definitely been concerns around the positive spin inserted into both these articles by this group of users as well as WP:OWN issues.

These diffs showing similarities between Justice and Ralicia include the same particular form of signature

Most of the IPs above have participated around the Valentin article.


 * Addendum 3 May 2008: Since Justice and Ralicia both expressed an !vote/opinion in Articles for deletion/Dennis Oliver, if they are found to be connected accounts this would be a clear violation of policy. Pigman ☿ 18:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments

Answer to pigman Pigman, this is justice all the way. All the users that you named are from spanish families. We like to edit articles from spanish people like other users like to edit articles about history or fashion ( what is wrong on that?). More than that, sometimes we consult each other about relevant information to be added in the articles. I am sorry if what really bothers you is that I have added a positive comment about Dennis Oliver deletion requested ONLY BY YOU. But also your comment about that "no every actor can have an article in wikipedia" is not fair. I think every actor having acting records can be in wikipedia!, no everyone need to be a superstar to be in wikipedia! Also, this is not a printed book with a limited space, the capacity of wikipedia of having files is unlimited!justice all the way (talk) 14:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)justice all the way


 * There are a couple of problems. Since this group of editors doesn't appear to be communicating with each other on-Wikipedia about these changes and additions, this qualifies as a form of sockpuppetry. Also this edit indicates that it is possible you may be Jorge Maria Perez and would have a conflict of interest in writing about your business partner Rodolfo Valentin. Pigman ☿ 18:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have to say, that's the most un-evenhanded reasoning I've seen in a very long time. By the same token, 99.9% of voting on American Idol is sockpuppetry.
 * In the REAL world, people talk.
 * You can see their mouths move and everything.
 * Their on-line representations are only a subset of a much larger social context, especially so for people in a culture of very strong person-to-person social context.
 * To suggest otherwise, read in context of other posts here, suggests personal bias.
 * Saltation (talk) 03:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

No, that is not my name...it seems that you are playing fbi. Also I search about JMP productions and it is a company that does videos. I understand that JMP is the acting manager for Dennis Oliver according to the actors database and it is not related to the video company. Also, what is the problem?.justice all the way (talk) 23:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)justice all the way
 * response

Also: it is very funny!, I hope I could be the cuban millionare named Jorge Maria Perez!. There are to much fantasy around you!!! sorry, I wish I am that person!justice all the way (talk) 23:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)justice all the way


 * Since you apparently posted a message purporting to be from Mr. Perez, I don't think it's unreasonable to think you might be either him or an authorized representative for him. Unless the content of that message was false and you don't actually have any contact with Mr Perez? A search does not show any results for JMP and Dennis Oliver together except on Oliver's IMDb page. Pigman ☿ 19:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Searching on "JMP Productions" and "Dennis Oliver" only came up with the site found connecting Rodolfo Valentine and Dennis Oliver above. "JMP Produtions" gets almost 2000 hits but the results are quite varied. Another option is that you are an employee of "JMP Producti

ons", here to promote these two people. Pigman ☿ 20:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

no pigman, I am a make up artist that works with many people from the show business and a very good person that likes to help others, that is all, sorry to desapoint you.justice all the way (talk) 23:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)justice all the way


 * Conclusions

Justice blocked 31 hours for abuse of multiple accounts. Ralicia and Pampita indef blocked as socks. Rodoval not blocked, as stale and not enough to go on. IPs not blocked as they're all stale. GBT/C 08:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)