Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Leyasu (2nd)


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User:Leyasu

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

Wildnox(talk) 17:02, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Report made by

I noticed this possible sock when he/she made several reverts back to versions that blocked Leyasu socks had recently been reverting to. Ther account appears to have been dormant since october when a  checkuser(which was inconclusive due to Leyasu's edits being to old for the Checkuser tool to use) report was made, after which other Leyasu socks resumed reverts and edits. Cronodevir edited only on Islam related pages prior to Leyasu's ban, but since the ban the only edits from Cronodevir have been reverts on pages recently edited by Leyasu socks. The majority of the reverts involving the Gothic Metal to Gothic Doom switch that Leyasu was known to commonly push. Here is a list of the reverts after Leyasu's ban:                   
 * Evidence

Compare to the pages edited prior to Leyasu's ban: Tawhid, Aqidah, Al-Ahbash, and Ibn Taymiyyah.

To me the sudden change indicates one of two things:

1. Cronodevir is a sockpuppet of Leyasu, created originally to seperate his/her edits on Islam related articles from his/her edits on music related articles, which is now being used to evade the ban imposed by ArbCom.

2. Cronodevir is an inactive account of a friend or family member of Leyasu, which he/she would have access to during visits. This would explain the sudden appearance of edits during the holiday season, during which people visit friends and family.

Regardless of which I believe this is a definite violation of WP:SOCK. --Wildnox(talk) 17:02, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Comments


 * Conclusions

This is a violation of WP:SOCK, and an admitted one. On Dec 25, Crono writes something slightly incoherent, but apparently asserting that he acting in good faith, by reverting intermediate vandalism. On January 25, Crono admits to making edits for Leyasu without examining them. From a rough survey of Crono's contributions, I could not find an article space edit other than to metal bands since July 2006. While I don't know anything about metal bands, most of these edits were immediately reverted by other users and called disruptive. (In fact, many of the edits to Islam-related articles also seemed contentious - but that's outside the scope of this SSP case.) Whether this is Leyasu, or just a naive friend allowing Leyasu to make edits through this account, it is highly inappropriate, and this account has made apparently few or no other useful edits for 6 months. Indefinite block.

Of course indefinite does not mean irrevocable; Crono may appeal to another administrator, as for all blocks, and if another administrator honestly believes that Crono understands that he is not to allow indefinitely banned users to edit through his account, the other admin may unblock. I personally do not believe Crono understands this, given that he made many Leyasu-style edits, claiming "not to really look at them", after the first complaint on Dec25. To me, that shows that he did not understand or take the problem seriously. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 19:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)