Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Mallaccaos


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User:Mallaccaos

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

--Akhilleus (talk) 01:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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 * Evidence

and are both participating in a mediation at Talk:Alexander the Great, and advocate the same positions. I suspect a single person is using both accounts to make it seem like multiple users support his position.

Mallaccaos' account was created Jan 31, 2006, but this user had already been editing since fall 2005 as the anon users and.


 * Contributions to Talk:Sappho on June 14 show that User:168.233.1.6 is the same as User:Mallaccaos. Start with this edit by 168.233.1.6, and go forward through the next couple of diffs. Mallaccaos logs in, edits the comment by 168.233.1.6 (which is signed as User:BONK), and changes the signature.


 * User:168.233.254.6 and User:168.233.1.6 are the same editor, as this diff from Talk:Sappho shows--168.233.1.6 copyedits 168.233.254.6's post. (Incidentally, this was a contribution to a dispute very similar to the current kerfuffle at Talk:Alexander the Great.)


 * Furthermore, the contributions of Mallaccaos and 168.233.1.6 roughly correlate with each other: for instance, on March 9, 2006, both 168.233.1.6 and Mallaccaos edit Thesprotia. On Mar 8-9, 168.233.1.6, 168.233.254.6, and Mallaccaos edit Chaonia. On Mar 9-10, Mallacaos and then 168.233.1.6 edit One (band), Argyris Nastopoulos, and Constantinos Christoforou. On Mar 14, 168.233.254.6 modifies a comment by Mallaccaos on Talk:George Tenet. This is just from looking at a short date range.

Apro is a recent account, created on August 31. However, it's clear that this editor is the same person as 168.233.254.6 and 168.233.1.6. See this diff, where 168.233.1.6 edits Apro's previous post, and this diff, where 168.233.254.6 signs his post as "Apro". The overwhelming majority of Apro's posts are to Talk:Alexander the Great, and it seems like it's a single-purpose account created for the dispute there; but Mallaccaos is also contributing to the dispute as if these are two separate editors.


 * Comments


 * Comment Akhilleus, I am using a server at work which is used by thousands of other people not only at our home office but nation wide which are routed back to our home office's Info Center. I'm sure many of us share IP addresses and also sure that I am not the only person from my company who has accounts on Wiki or uses it at work. As for advocating similar issues for one thing if Apro is Greek it wouldn't surprise me that he shares similar views as me and as you said I'm not on the talk site nor do I contribute to the issue as extensively as he does. No, I am not Apro but I am now curious to find out if he does work in the same company as me. Regards. :) Mallaccaos 26 October 2006


 * Oh for goodness sakes, not this again. I am sorry, Akhilleus if you feel I am suspect because I hold similar views Mallaccaos but I can say with definate positive certainty that I am not Mallaccaos nor CretanPride nor anyone else for that matter. I've always used the user name Apro everytime I joined a group. And yes I do have a wiki account, which I got a few months ago or whenver and have used it through work, which I am doing so now and which I never bothered to hide my IP because I have nothing to hide. Apro 26 October 2006


 * Apro PM on the way. Interested to find out where you work. Hope I am not intruding. :) Mallaccaos 26 October 2006


 * Roger that. Apro 26 October 2006

OK, I went back and read Akhilleus's evidence a second time and I can see where he might be suspect of all this but I must stress here that I am not a sockupppet of Mallaccaos and neither is he a sockupppet of me. I did receive an email from Mallaccaos and can confirm we do work for the same company, thankfully not my boss, LoL, but I'm not exactly sure how this can be resolved here. Is it against the rules for people who share similar IPs to be wiki editors? Apro 26 October 2006

New comment. The series of posts above display an idiosyncratic trait shared by Apro and Mallaccaos' signatures. Rather than use ~ to sign with a timestamp, they manually type their username and the date, without an exact time. Sometimes this leads to mistakes in signing: see this diff by Mallaccaos, and this diff by Apro. In the comments above Apro's and Mallaccaos' usernames lead to their User talk pages, another unusual and shared feature. --Akhilleus (talk) 19:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't understand what signing ones name manually means anything, I am sure that neither myself nor Apro are the only wiki editors who sign our names manually. Plus how is it explained that on this page we are both at the same time posting and talking on wiki within seconds of each other without logging out of Wiki. Mallaccaos 27 October 2006


 * Don't know how Mallaccaos signs his name but I'm too lazy to type it in so I usually copy & paste it, take out the time, change the date. I figured if anyone wants to see the timestamped they can look at the history page. Is there a certain Wiki policy way editors need to sign their name? Is it mandatory to have the timestamp ~ after posting? Apro 28 October 2006

This is obviously becoming a long term problem between this article. I am therefore taking no stnace on it, and recommend you take it to WP:RFCU. Kil  o • T 12:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Conclusions