Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Martha Nilsen

User:Martha Nilsen

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

Coigrich (talk) 02:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Report submission by

These users continue to re-add links to the same Google discussion group even after extensive discussion about linking to the Google Group and an RFC decision against the links. The RFC consensus was that the Google Discussion Group does not comply with WP:EL. 'Cool Hand Luke' concluded, "It appears that only those associated with the group have supported inclusion, while a stream of independent commentators oppose."
 * Evidence

June 2, 2007 Martha Nilsen added link to Google Discussion for first time, long before the RFC. 

December 23, 2007 After RFC decision, Sethie removed link per consensus. 

Martha Nilsen added link back 3 times, after the RFC was closed. Jan 22, 2008 Jan 25, 2008 Jan 27, 2008

New user Exsmithsfriendsmember (added 16:20, 26 January 2008) subsequently added link back 3 more times, as of writing. Jan 28, 2008 Jan 29, 2008 Jan 29, 2008


 * Comments

Martha Nilsen has no relation to me whatsoever. The link is not being added to external links, but is a source for information. Cool Hand Luke conclusion was regarding the link being placed under "external links". Alternatively the link can be removed, but the other source to the information posted is on the Smith's Friend's group's website, which is password protected. There is a movement by members of the Smith's Friends, which is an internationally regarded cult to edit the wikipedia article in favour of their group (bias) Exsmithsfriendsmember (talk) 08:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Posts to the group contain unverifiable information and often claim them to be internal memorandum or postings. It's interesting to note that Exsmithsfriendsmember was added as a new user right after Martha Nilsen began this activity. Coigrich (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I can verify the information if you're willing to log into Smith's Friends members website. I am happy to provide you with the username and password, the same that is provided to all members. The article posted in the google group is a direct copy from the one posted on the Smith's Friends official website. Again, I have nothing to do with Martha Nielsen, the Wikipedia moderators can confirm this by checking IP addresses. Exsmithsfriendsmember (talk) 13:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You have "no relation to {Martha) whatsoever", but jumped into this controversial edit, by chance, exactly after Martha Nilsen stepped out? You have intimate knowledge of the background to the link which Martha Nilsen posted, and support it to the extent that you are offering to provide a confidential password to verify?  Martha has violated WP:NOR, formed her own opinion and published her ideas using this 'post' to prop up her opinion.  This is the kind of work that causes some people to lose respect for Wikipedia.  If you are not connected to Martha, I'd suggest you distance yourself from her contributions. Coigrich (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No user has the right to suggest to someone to distance themselves from my contributions. Not even Coigrich. I'm not a heavy user of Wikipedia, and I can admit I wasn't aware about the discussion going on about the link to this Google Group. And I can assure you the discussion isn't over. I just need some time. Unlike many others around here I have a life.Martha Nilsen (talk) 20:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Martha Nilsen is not Exsmithsfriendsmember. Regards Martha Nilsen (talk) 20:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Exsmithsfriendsmember has 5 edits, three to Smith's Friends, two to this SSP case and appears the day after Marth Nilsen last edited that. I find this highly suspicious. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 20:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Conclusions


 * I do have another username, however I was unable to remember the password for it. The other username is Uga Boga and I have participated in discussions relating to the Smith's Friends topic. I believe if you are able to check ip addresses, you will be able to notice that my ip addresses matches Uga Boga username and does not match Martha Nilsen. It may be highly suspicious due to coincidence, nothing more. Exsmithsfriendsmember (talk) 23:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

These two accounts have not contributed to the encyclopedia. They have engaged in persistent spamming and disruption in an apparent attempt to promote a Google Group that they may be affiliated with. Whether they are violating WP:SOCK as sock puppets, or meat puppets is not determinative, because they qualify as spam-only accounts. As such, it is my decision to indefinitely block both accounts. However, I will agree with any administrator unblocking either account if it promises to stop adding inappropriate external links and refrain from apparent conflict of interest and promotional editing. Jehochman Talk 19:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)