Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Messenger2010


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

User:Messenger2010

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

I suspect that IP addresses starting with 63.17 are actually in fact User:Messenger2010.

I was alerted to Messenger2010 being a sockpuppetmaster when the user slipped up and edited one of their socks spelling mistakes.here in the middle of a Requests for comment discussion.

Perhaps the most immediate and obvious piece of evidence is the reverts that have gone on on the following articles in the last 24 hours since this page has been made. These articles include the soybean, soy protein, PDCAAS, Designer Whey Protein and Biological Value articles. All reverts made by IPs beginning with 63.17 back to version by one either the suspected puppet master or one of the other suspected sockpuppets.


 * Evidence

Have a look at this edit by Messenger2010 and compare it to this  and this. Notice the how the spacing, tone and wording is nearly identical.

The obvious evidence is located on talk page for the Soybean article. Please click on this link, scroll to the bottom to the section "Soy is NOT a complete source of Protein". Messenger2010 is supporting 63.17.51.115 as they "gang up" on Greenman. An attempt to infuse an opinion was met with a second sockpuppet and strawman argument.

Please notice the striking similaries of the subject edit patterns and use of language and catch phrases ( such as "POV Pushing/Pusher" (a key identifier) and also "Experienced Wikipedians needed", overuse/misuse of term POV, use of the word "unencyclopedic" in edit summaries)

Some Examples:

Master: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Messenger2010

Sock #1

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=63.17.106.109 ("POV", "unencyclopedic")

Sock #2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/63.17.51.115 ("Experienced Wikipedians needed")

Sock #3

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=63.17.55.215

Sock #4

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=63.17.58.67 ("Experienced Wikipedians", "POV Pusher")

Other socks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=63.17.64.192 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=63.17.90.25 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=63.17.93.101 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/63.17.61.40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/63.17.63.214


 * Notes

Another reason for exposing this sockpuppet master is to due the harrassment and wikistalking of myself (and to a lesser extent other editors like David D. and Glen S that has been perpetuated by the socks starting with 63.17. See here:


 * Puppetmaster and Socks Obsession with "POV" on Soy and Biological Value-Related Articles

This is all without mentioning the POV edits on the soybean, soy protein, PDCAAS, Designer Whey Protein and Biological Value articles. (and in the soybean and soy protein case, both master and puppet in the same discussion, )

I beleive that a WP:RFCU will show that Messenger2010 and the socks are the same user. May I suggest that Messenger2010 is using the Anon IP socks to perpetuate deeds that push and break the boundries of the policies and guidelines of Wikipeda, while keeping the Master account "clean" to make formal complaints about users that don't share the same views he does on the articles listed above (one strong example of this is the case of 71.240.246.79 - the user received a {test4) warning on a third violation (two from the Master) for actions that were not simple, obvious vandalism, but were a POV dispute. Something the Socks and Master are both currently engaged in on the Biological Value and Soybean pages. Nonetheless 71.240.246.79 was blocked after the Puppetmaster complained. All the while the soybean and biological value article's neutral tone and source accuracy are being threatened by the sockpuppets, who bully their way with strawman arguments and fake wikipedia warnings to make unaccurate changes that are scientific in nature (and difficult to verify), and passing off strong opinions and claims as facts to articles.

Then of course there's these messages that have been left on my talk page. . I don't think it's that much of a stretch connecting them to this case considering the timing of the posts occuring shortly after this. An admission of guilt? Both accounts have since been blocked indefinitely.


 * New Accounts Since this Investigation Opened

Since this was discovered and posted here, at least one new account has popped up: DoctorColgan along with AndyCanada. Colgan is already making the same edits as the ones on the original list as his very first edits on Wikipedia. AndyCanada's only contributions are revert changes back to version by DoctorColgan or list sock. This strongly suggests it that at the very least they are meatpuppets - though I won't hesitate to call them full out sock accounts.

Worse, this username borders on being a "confusing, misleading, or troublesome username". In reality, Dr. Michael Colgan is a real person, and ironicaly was a key reference of the socks above in their strawman edit war on the Biological Value page. See the edit summary in this edit: by Doctor Colgan, and the edit made by one of suspected sock puppets here:. DoctorColgan refers to these edits saying "added my info back in", however this user has not contributed these edits in the past from this account on the Soybean article, only on the Biological value article and only as a anon IP starting with 63.17.

I'll let the reader judge if it's more than just a coincidence.

Thanks for looking into this, I know the admin that looks after this will have their hands full - hence the suggestion for a quick solution via WP:RFCU. Regards. Yankees76 03:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Please convict me of my funny behaviour.
 * I am NOT innocent

I would like you to immediately ban (ASAP) all accounts and let me start fresh.

Also, where do I go to turn myself in.

Please do not put any hand cuffs on me(oh scary). Thanks: Andy I Plead Gulity As Charged 22:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

This should be taken to WP:RFCU. Kil  o • T 12:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Conclusions