Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Messhermit


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User:Messhermit

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer

Descendall 01:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Suspected sockpuppets
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Messhermit is banned from editing Alberto Fujimori (See Requests for arbitration/Messhermit). However, I believe that he is editing the article as 65.2.103.216, 147.70.124.59, 74.225.187.18 74.225.227.204, 147.70.153.117, and 68.215.109.135. The following are my reasons to believe this:
 * Evidence


 * 147.70.124.59's IP is owned by Miami-Dade College. Messhermit's user page claims that he is a student at this very same college.
 * 147.70.153.117 also edits from Miami-Dade College.
 * 147.70.153.139 also edits from Miami-Dade College.
 * 147.70.124.109 also edits from Miami-Dade College.
 * 65.2.103.216 also edits from Miami, Florida.
 * 68.215.109.135 also edits from Miami, Florida.
 * 65.2.103.216's edit summaries use the phrase "rv. Political bias detected" Messhermit uses extremely similar language in his edit summaries about Peru.
 * 147.70.153.117 uses similar language
 * 68.215.109.135 also writes of "detecting" POV.
 * At one point, Messhermit acted in total defiance of the ban and edited Alberto Fujimori.  This creates the impression that he forgot to log out and edit as an IP.


 * 65.2.103.216, 74.225.187.18, and Messhermit have rushed to defend one another on Talk:Alberto Fujimori, and are apparently in 100% agreement with each other.


 * 65.2.103.216, 147.70.124.59, 74.225.227.204 and 74.225.187.18 are all obvious Single purpose accounts   whose purpose seems to be adding Messhermit's suggestions to Peru-related articles.


 * 65.2.103.216, 147.70.124.59, User:74.225.187.18, and 74.225.227.204 have almost identicle edit histories. For example, in addition to editing the article on Fujimori, 65.2.103.216 147.70.124.59, and 147.70.153.117 all edit List of dictators.  Interestingly, 74.225.187.18, although he has never edited the list of dictators, complained to User:Addhoc about the state of the list.


 * Messhermit has been involved in editing Túpac Amaru Revolutionary Movement and Shining Path. 65.2.103.216 referred to these edits in the first person.


 * Messhermit objected to a user calling himself a "human rights advocate."   65.2.103.216 raised the same objection.   So did 147.70.124.59 .  So did 74.225.187.18   So did 74.225.227.204


 * 74.225.187.18 65.2.103.216,74.225.227.204, 147.70.153.117 and 68.215.109.135 all have the same ISP, BellSouth. While DNS stuff identifies two out of these five as originating in Altanta, Georgia rather than Miami, that may be due to the fact that BellSouth.net, Inc. is located at 575 Morosgo Drive Atlanta, GA.

If 65.2.103.216, 147.70.124.59, 74.225.187.18, 74.225.227.204, 147.70.153.117 and Messhermit are not the same editor, than I deeply apologize to all of them. I feel somewhat embarrassed to be the one to make such a serious accusation, but it seems to me that a wikipedian banned from editing Alberto Fujimori may be doing so.

I also ask that a decision be made on 147.70.124.109, even though he has not edited in about a month. This user, who has injected the same pro-Fujimori POV into other articles, edited Paquisha War. Messhermit is banned from editing any articles dealing with wars between Ecuador and Peru, and it is thus important to know if 147.70.124.109 and Messhermit are the same person. This has become nothing more than a “which hunt” against my person imposed by two leftist wikipedians that hold a grudge against my person. I will refuse to answer anything due to the fact that this is nothing more than a political persecution and an attempt to subdue my freedom of speech here in Wikipedia. Messhermit 01:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comments

Descendall asked me to look in on this page. Messhermit: two questions:
 * 1) From context, clearly Descendall is one of the people you are accusing of a “which hunt” (that is, presumably, a "witch hunt"). You do not identify the other. Who are you accusing? If it is me (since I am on the political left, and have worked on that page, I have to imagine it might be), what edits have I made that constitute "witch hunting"?
 * 2) Just to possibly save some time: are you denying the accusation of using sock puppets? (You don't actually say so: so far you have made only a "non-denial denial". - Jmabel | Talk 02:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * 1) I accused Descendall and Bdean. I accuse the first one of his endless defense of Sendero Luminoso and attempting to discredit anyone that does not share his POV. The second person is Bdean, someone that clearly follows a political agenda, believes that his "word" is the law, has attempted to use Wikipedia for commercial purposes and has already failed to follow Wikipedia's NPOV rules by sponsoring the use of words such as "dictator". Both of them apparently hold a grudge against my person. Messhermit 13:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) It is clear for me, at this point, that there are people here that believe to be "right" in every sense of the word, twisting and adapting facts to their own personal (and who knows, maybe commercial) purposes. I have already declined a meaningless mediation, and I have formally requested that every single contribution that I made in those articles be erased. I'm not going to force anyone to go "my way or the highway", because I know how frustrating that is. Messhermit 13:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) I already leave a comment in the "Talk Page" of the Administrator that imposed my ban in the Fujimori's article. In this sense, I'm withdrawing myself and leaving from Alberto Fujimori and List of Dictators articles permanently. From now on, Bdean and Descendall can do whatever they want there, since apparently they are both judges and jury, ignoring the fact that so far the Peruvian, Chilean and Japanese courts have not stated anything regarding the former President. Messhermit 13:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Again, this has nothing to do with the content of anyone's edits and everything to do with whether or not a user who is banned from editing multiple articles is logging out in order to edit them. --Descendall 20:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Not blocked. This needs to be confirmed by WP:RFCU. Kil  o • T 19:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Conclusions