Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/MoritzB

User:MoritzB

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

--Ramdrake 20:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

FranzV has only two edits, both of them to revert to a previous edit which MoritzB had made and which had been reverted in the meantime. One of the edits has no summary, while the other only has "MoritzB is right", so these look suspicious.--Ramdrake 20:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Evidence
 * User is currently using sockpuppets to violate 3RR. Need confirmation of sockpuppet status. Edit histories are pretty clear that these are single-purpose edit-war sockpuppets. --Strothra 13:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

^Indeed..

As pointed out by Strothra, the banned sock puppet IP of user "runtshit" is connected to a sockpuppet of MoritzB, 211.72.213.93, who made the exact same edit as MoritzB and used precisely the same exact summary as 128.241.111.213! They supposedly log on and make their first edit ever merely to revert to MoritzB. 

Observing the commotion hands on, I feel extremely confident that these are sock/meat puppets (they have to be). Also, from another article where MoritzB was restricted due to 3rr, another suspected sock/meat puppet pops up, blindly reverting to MoritzB not long after MoritzB sent a message to Ramdrake pleading to have the page reverted due to 3rr. Mind you, this is the first edit by this Ip as well, and the single purpose was to revert for MoritzB it seems.  

MoritzB: 

Suspected sock Franz V with the same exact edit on the same page, during the same time period, of course, reverting conveniently to MoritzB. 

It isn't a matter of anyone "liking his edits", since most of the editors in question despise them. It is mainly about him causing disruption and apparently using sock puppets to avoid responsibility, not to mention that he is likely Runtshit and has been banned, in which case the user shouldn't even be allowed to edit.Taharqa 21:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Franz is not my sockpuppet and I don't know him. Obviously some guy who appreciates my edits, though. MoritzB 21:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * It's obvious that my edits are popular and I cannot help if non-established users agree with me.
 * MoritzB 15:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/MoritzB MoritzB 21:03, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that usercheck doesn't tell us anything about your case as a whole as you're strongly suspected as being Runtshit.. The admin from the checkuser conceded that it is in fact possible that you indeed are the banned user in question, but they didn't elaborate on the IPs.Taharqa 21:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Give me a break. Runtshit made 5 edits all of which said: "Yes, but Roland Rance is an extremely smelly piece of shit". Look at his contribution history. Any reasonable person can see that it is extremely unlikely that I am "Runtshit". LOL.
 * MoritzB 22:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Runtshit's IP is connected to one of your other sockpuppets, also from identical edit summaries on the same exact article you edited, reverting to the same exact thing around the same time period. The odds of these IPs not being you is low. Not to mention the other IPs addressed.Taharqa 22:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * However, none of those IPs are mine which was confirmed by an admin.MoritzB 02:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

^Nothing has been confirmed by an admin, that's not true at all. You were only checked for one username and it can still be a meat puppet, the same admin states that you may be connected to Runtshit and/or his ips, along with the others.Taharqa 17:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This attempt to connect me with Runtshit is desperate and ridiculous. Runtshit was a banned random vandal who made five edits saying: "Yes, but Roland Rance is an extremely smelly piece of shit".
 * MoritzB 17:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think there is strong evidence that Franz V and MoritzB are tag-teaming, even if checkuser can't prove it.
 * Conclusions

I also think that the suspected link to banned user Runtshit should be left out of the conversation. Runtshit happened seven months ago, and did not directly impact in the current dispute. It will not be possible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MoritzB is Runtshit: the checkusers left it as a "maybe."

KillerChihuahua blocked MoritzB for 24 hours for his role in the ongoing dispute - especially, as best I understand, for violating 3RR. The remaining question is whether to levy a block on Franz V.

I will leave this discussion open, as for Ramdrake above, but I believe that, with checkuser results already received, it is time to proceed to other steps in dispute resolution. Shalom Hello 19:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've blocked Franz V as a probable sockpuppet of . Picaroon (t) 00:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Franz V is a sock of Hayden5650, and unrelated to MoritzB. Checkuser found that MoritzB and 211.72.213.93 are unrelated (211.72.213.93 is now blocked as an open proxy). 128.241.111.213 is blocked as a sock of User:Runtshit, but there's no evidence that MoritzB is connected to that account. Therefore, this report provides no evidence that MoritzB is involved in sockpuppetry. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)