Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Moroccansahraoui

User:Moroccansahraoui

 * Suspected sock puppeteer


 * Suspected sock puppets
 * MS:I definitely disagree on this. It's simply a manipulation to discredit my efforts to rectify the distored information in Wikipedia.
 * MS:I definitely disagree on this. It's simply a manipulation to discredit my efforts to rectify the distored information in Wikipedia.
 * MS:I definitely disagree on this. It's simply a manipulation to discredit my efforts to rectify the distored information in Wikipedia.
 * MS:I definitely disagree on this. It's simply a manipulation to discredit my efforts to rectify the distored information in Wikipedia.
 * MS:I definitely disagree on this. It's simply a manipulation to discredit my efforts to rectify the distored information in Wikipedia.
 * MS:I definitely disagree on this. It's simply a manipulation to discredit my efforts to rectify the distored information in Wikipedia.


 * Report submission by
 * —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Evidence
 * Several users have come to edit Talk:List of countries to get Western Sahara removed from the list. Their only edits have been to establish "consensus" to delete it. I've suggested that Moroccansahraoui is the main account because it was the first one to start editing and from the name alone, someone can figure out the pro-Moroccan agenda that is being pushed. After Moroccansahraoui's first few brief revert wars, he was warned on his talk page and I suspect started resorting to sockpuppets to establish a false consensus. I'm not the first person to suggest that some or all of these are sock puppets. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MS:Stop these kind of attacks, you are making so much unbelievable investigation to support your wrong/distored information on Western Sahara issue.--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 23:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * WHOIS indicates that the anon ip is from Morocco and Moroccansahraoui has said that he lives in Western Sahara. Since Internet access in the latter is provided by the former, it is possible that this WHOIS information can link these accounts and the anon ip. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MS:FYI, as the kingdom of Morocco is the administrative power of Western Sahara. The telecommunication infrastructure of Western Sahara is connected to the moroccan network. Internet accesses exist in the main cities of Western Sahara : Laayoune, Dakhla, Smara, Boujdour et Aousserd and all of them are connected to the moroccan network. Please look at http://www.sahara-developpement.com and go to Telecom infrastructure menu.--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 23:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MS:Justin, the hard supporter of "SADR" is apparently an administrator or closed to administrators in Wikipedia. He is tracking my connection from my side which I guess isn't a fair and not authorized in the american law (you aren't the FBI to do so). There is no evidence in what Justin is affirming. Justin is trying to discredit my comments because he doesn't want to admit his mistake on considering Western Sahara statute. He has been imposing his personal point of view in Wikipedia since many years without any contradiction or opposition. He's profiting on the absence of contradictor to post in Wikipedia many many many wrong and distored information. It's simply too much. Finally, I don't know if the profile of Justin is 100% correct. Are you in touch or closed to Ms. Faten Aggad? I am sure you know here. Isn't it?--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 23:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MS:Instead of giving strong arguments against my logicial comments, you are simply continuing allegating to discredit my comments.--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 23:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow Obviously, I am not going to respond to all of these charges, but I will say that I am not an admin and I have made no attempts to contact any admins other than this listing (and the checkuser entry that I had delisted.) Also, let me reiterate that I was not the first person to make this suggestion. Your claims about my biography being untrue are positively bewildering considering how much personal information I have on my page. And, no I do not know Faten Aggad. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

MS:Anyway, you seem to be well armed to face me than I am. The intellectual fight is not balanced. You know the rules and you can do whatever you want in Wikipedia. You made as a simple Wikipedia user a technical investigation to check the provenance of the comments while you have no right to do so. Here for example, I would like to relate to whom it concerns what you have done illegally to protest on your manner to deal with our discussion BUT I have no idea how to do. As you see my hands are bound and I am so frustrated to not being able to react. I am afraid to give you a chance to block my account and posts.--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 03:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC) MS:Anyway, say hello to Faten. For those who don't know Faten. Faten is a hard supporter of Polisario. She gave a great help on the Western Sahara Wikiproject. I know here and she knows me.--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

What? I swear that I have no idea what you're babbling about at this point. I cannot block your account as I am not an admin. I have no idea why you think that I have no right to check the provenance of the comments. I have no idea why you insist that I know Faten. If you need help, you can check Help:Contents. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * MS:You don't have to swear (swearing isn't commun to western people!!!). Anyway, I would like to ask Wikipedia admins to track Justin connection. I am not confident with the stubborness of Justin on keeping a wrong statute of WS in the list. Something could be behind the name of Justin. Could anyone give a help on that? How can I ask for socket puppet regarding Justin?--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 23:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay Go to Suspected sock puppets and fill out the form. This will be fun. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I took some time to review the case, following the recent developments that popped into my watchlist.
 * Conclusions

Here's what I think from the contributions of these users:
 * There is not much to work on but Jacquo and Samcommentator do seem suspicious to me (as socks of someone else, created the same day, for the purpose of this discussion only). Maybe Moroccansahraoui, maybe someone else, maybe they are friends pointed to the ongoing discussion. I'd disregard their "votes".
 * The IP user is probably Moroccansahraoui (very similar interests), and this is making me raise an eyebrow because if this is true then Moroccansahraoui broke WP:SOCK. I hope not to see that IP edit again.
 * I have no opinion on Terrygazoulit. The contribs do point to Morocco, but he might be related or just crossed the discussion by chance.

Note that I am not giving any opinion on the dispute at hand, and won't comment on that. I am not comfortable acting on the contributions alone because the material is IMO too small not to give the benefit of the doubt. I suggest you to reopen the RFCU case if you want a technical investigation. -- lucasbfr  talk 14:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)