Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ogabadaga

User:Ogabadaga

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 07:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence

Immediately upon my reverting user Tromaintern here, and warning him/her about the three-revert rule, user Ogabadaga appeared on the scene to make the exact same edits, making the same arguments (here and on the talk page).

As can be seen by the contributions of both, they are never logged on simultaneously, the logged times interchanging to back one another up. Also on the same pages I link to, it is to be noted that they both show a mini-wikibreak for roughly the same time period in the middle of September.

The above two paras contain mere circumstantial evidence, and can be explained by coincidence. However, the user then accidentally left him/her self logged in as Tromaintern when leaving a comment as Ogabadaga. See diff here.

User:Maxador also has a very similar editing history. Also note that this guy has a history of using various IPs. And technically speaking, though Ogabadaga claims to have been around longer, that account is really the sock of Tromaintern, rather than the other way around.--Cúchullain t/ c 07:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments


 * Yes, I have since discovered that Tromaintern is in fact the puppeteer. Ogabadaga's userpage is a direct copy of a good editor's page here. What is the process here? Do we move this talk over to sock puppets/Tromaintern ? And to be clear, I am not accusing Dposse of being a puppet; it is obvious that Tromaintern merely copy-pasted the text from his page to Ogabadaga's Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 09:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * User:Fearedhallmonitor has also recently begun editing these articles in the same way as the others, this is another probable sock.--Cúchullain t/ c 06:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed. They have both edited Philip Zlotorynski and My Big Fat Independent Movie which are both articles that don't get much traffic. Fearedhallmonitor also, like Tromaintern and Ogabadaga likes to claim content is censored before reverting. IrishGuy talk 15:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Now my turn. Just because I don't agree with a couple of editors, doesn't make a sockpuppet. My edits were far more concillatory than the editor Tromaintern who desired a far more negative article. If this part of some strategy to intimidate me into accepting unacceptable edits, then so be it. However, just because I re-created an accounted based upon an earlier account, doesn't make me a sockpuppet. Nice try.Ogabadaga 17:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments


 * That's beside the point really; it's one of the oldest tricks in the book to make one puppet less conciliatory. Would you care to refute any of the actual evidence presented? Should I be proven wrong, have no doubt I will personally apologise. I don't think I am, however. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 17:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Touche... because another older trick in the book is that I have to prove you wrong. I don't. Fortunately, I'm not guilty until proven innocent. The only misunderstanding that I probably should clear up was the whole handle thing where I accidentally cut and paste Tromaintern's handle onto my own was more a copy-paste error. I was trying to copy his handle for the purpose of reporting him for 3rr. Thankfully Tromaintern fixed it, probably to protect himself. But I do see where you'd be suspicious. So I only have myself to blame for that. Concidential or otherwise, I'm not going to spend alot of energy on this witch hunt crap. Maybe I shouldn't have copy and pasted my old user page. But I couldn't keep the same user name. So I did what I did so I could edit again. Ogabadaga 17:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Bravo! I was wondering how long the ol' "accidental cut-and-paste of Tromaintern's signature" was going to occur to you. I thought you would have been there hours ago. But your story is inconsistent: you say that Tromaintern corrected your mistake, but you seem to forget that it was you, as 'Ogabadaga' who corrected the mistake (oh, and you are not and have never been Dposse - but I don't care about that; it's not a crime to copy the style and content of someone's userpage. I only brought it up to illustrate the fakery behind the Ogabadaga account).
 * I could go on, but I won't waste any more time on this right now; others will judge one way or the other. But let me finish with this: I'm not engaging in a witch-hunt here. I certainly wouldn't like to see you blocked or anything like that - we make mistakes and we learn from them (I've made my fair share). I only want a level playing field; then we can argue out any genuine differences of opinion like adults, perhaps even enjoy it. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 19:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Obvious sockpuppetry. I have blocked the Ogabadaga account. IrishGuy talk 19:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)