Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Potters house

User:Potters house

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


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Daniel Case 05:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I was clearing out expired prods when I came upon Harold Warner, from which the tag had been removed by Sapienz, who claimed that sources had been added as xlinks. Since he turned out to be a relatively new user, I decided that I would list the article at AfD and leave a note about removing prods on his talk page.
 * Evidence

But as I looked at his history, and the article's, I noticed that there seemed to be a focus on articles related to Potter's House Christian Fellowship. I noted also that there seemed to be an edit war between Sapienz and Darrenss (, and ) who he claimed was an ex-PHCF member biased against the group. Darrenss's userpage does seem to suggest this.

I then decided to put this on WP:AN/I. But then I decided to look into Potters house, who had originally created the article. And things got interesting.

Potters house was blocked indefinitely in May for an inappropriate username. This was after two blocks, one for spam and another for 3RR, (the latter lifted after two of the 24 hours) last summer.. But I noticed Potters house has a similar thing about Darrenss and his purported agenda. Sapienz has been, and Potters house was, actively editing Wayman Mitchell.

It also seems to me their language is similar. Is Sapienz simply Potters house, trying to evade a ban?


 * Comments


 * 1) IMO, yes - same editing styles, same allegations being made. It's been reasonably confidently established that Potters house, along with several IPs (see User talk:Darrenss for an extended conversation between them) were a PH member by the name of Nick, who had some personal beef with Darrenss regarding the latter's former involvement with PH, and regularly vandalised that user's user page. I put it on semi-protect and things seem to have rapidly slowed down there. Orderinchaos 06:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes I can verify that this is true. The same user aka user:Potter's House, aka User:Xsxsxsxs, aka user:Sapienz, aka heaps of anon IP's. I recently placed an incident report for his behaviour under the heading user:Sapienz - Incidents on the 3rd of August outlining his various IP's that he has used to harrass me and others. I already had 2 posts I left on Sapienz talk page and he deleted them both, besides only Nick aka potters house guy knows I used to attend his church, that fact he uses against me. I tried to be civil to him to explain my edits on those talk pages and even invited him to discuss it but so far he has chosen to complain to other editors about me and has avoided any coversation regarding his favorite articles. One more thing, on the Wayman Mitchell talk page Nick explains that he runs a site http://www.waymanmitchell.com and has scanned onto his site a book he is using for reference which is copyrighted. Also Nick is the web admin for http://www.cfmau.com and http://www.pottersclub.com which he has furiously fought to get into the Potters House related articles.Darrenss 13:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Sapienz is almost certainly Potters house editing under a new username. Potters house was blocked for an inappropriate username; his new name is not a username violation, so this is not really block evasion. There may be COI or other problems with Sapienz's editing that might warrant a block, but no evidence of such is provided in this case--therefore, there is at current no reason to take action against Sapienz. --Akhilleus (talk) 01:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)